Cape Dwarf Chameleons???
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Vampire.queen
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And you are from....?
Fearaffect
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Good luck!!
Few and far between......this site is your best chance at getting one though........
Illegal to export(and even keep in their own country) outa S.A. and very few breeders here in the US.........
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Jseabass,
The South African Dwarf Chameleons (Bradypodion sp.) are extremely rare in captivity, particularly in the US. There are only 10 people in the US currently working with any Bradypodion species and they only have the species Bradypodion thamnobates and Bradypodion transvaalense. There are no Cape Dwarf Chameleons (Bradypodion pumilum) currently kept in the US. A few are present in Europe but they are extremely rare there as well.
Due to the rarity of Bradypodion species, you probably are best looking into other chameleon species for your first chameleon. The best starter chameleon species are not particularly small but if you do some research and you're willing to put in the time, effort and money to set them up correctly, there are a few fairly small species that with some extra care would fit the bill alright for you.
Chris
The South African Dwarf Chameleons (Bradypodion sp.) are extremely rare in captivity, particularly in the US. There are only 10 people in the US currently working with any Bradypodion species and they only have the species Bradypodion thamnobates and Bradypodion transvaalense. There are no Cape Dwarf Chameleons (Bradypodion pumilum) currently kept in the US. A few are present in Europe but they are extremely rare there as well.
Due to the rarity of Bradypodion species, you probably are best looking into other chameleon species for your first chameleon. The best starter chameleon species are not particularly small but if you do some research and you're willing to put in the time, effort and money to set them up correctly, there are a few fairly small species that with some extra care would fit the bill alright for you.
Chris
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chameleonneeds
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Yeah you definetely wont be able to get them anytime soon.
I however do keep the cape dwarf, legaly in South africa, for you to aquire them here you need to get them CB from a person then apply for permits.
If you are wanting small species in the U.S go for the rudis (trioceros sternfeldi) or something like that.
Good luck
I however do keep the cape dwarf, legaly in South africa, for you to aquire them here you need to get them CB from a person then apply for permits.
If you are wanting small species in the U.S go for the rudis (trioceros sternfeldi) or something like that.
Good luck
Fearaffect
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https://www.chameleonforums.com/multituberculatum-photo-shoot-29885/
Third group of pics is a male sternfeldi(Rudis) and this is a youtube vid I did on a female:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR0xnhjXwv8
Very cool Chams.......
eisentrauti
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yes. Here's a list of smaller chams, which are available:
sternfeldi (often sold as rudis, could be kept in pairs
merumontanus (not for beginners !)
bitaeniatus (social species)
tavetanum (social species)
ellioti (not so easy to get)
werneri (you have to seperate them)
sternfeldi (often sold as rudis, could be kept in pairs
merumontanus (not for beginners !)
bitaeniatus (social species)
tavetanum (social species)
ellioti (not so easy to get)
werneri (you have to seperate them)
Fearaffect
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Benny, I didnt know Tav. was social....interesting.....thanks for the info...
eisentrauti
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They could be kept in pairs or 1.x groups ... depends on the size of the enclosure, as always. For the beginning it's better to keep them seperate, especially with new wc ones. To get them in breeding condition it's also better to seperate
eisentrauti
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No problem. Sometimes chams called "red rudis" are available, aka "crowned rudis". They have a gorgeous coloration, not so far away from the pumilum; but they are not so easy to get the last months
eisentrauti
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I forget one important smaller chameleon species: Furcifer lateralis lateralis (FLCHams has them at the moment), they are perfect when you have a warmer climate. I don't know how warm it's in NJ but I think nearly all of the chams mentioned could be kept there without problems
Damaranum
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I don't agree rudis/sternfeldi should be kept in pairs, specially not by beginners!
Actually no beginner should keep chameleons together. It is first very important to learn more about general behaviour. With the smaller species it is often more difficult to recognize stress, and this slowly kills them
And about the pumilum and othr Bradypodions, even if they where available I wouldn't advise them to beginners with chameleons. They really need special care. But it indeed is one of the most beautiful species.
Good luck with your choice.
An other good alternative for a small species is Furcifer lateralis as this species doesn't has as much requirements in temperature as the montane species adviced in the previous posts. And about this species lots of information can be found.
When selecting montane species you must be sure that you can provide the temperatures they need (low night temperatures!!) And never start something when at best the highest night temperatures can be reached. By this you will slowly kill your chameleon!
Feel free to ask any questions here! there are many people who can help you.
Actually no beginner should keep chameleons together. It is first very important to learn more about general behaviour. With the smaller species it is often more difficult to recognize stress, and this slowly kills them
And about the pumilum and othr Bradypodions, even if they where available I wouldn't advise them to beginners with chameleons. They really need special care. But it indeed is one of the most beautiful species.
Good luck with your choice.
An other good alternative for a small species is Furcifer lateralis as this species doesn't has as much requirements in temperature as the montane species adviced in the previous posts. And about this species lots of information can be found.
When selecting montane species you must be sure that you can provide the temperatures they need (low night temperatures!!) And never start something when at best the highest night temperatures can be reached. By this you will slowly kill your chameleon!
Feel free to ask any questions here! there are many people who can help you.
eisentrauti
Avid Member
you forget the small word "could" 
eisentrauti
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On adcham.com nearly all species mentioned are listed. The best chameleon book is Petr Necas' chameleon handbook
cape dwarf chameleons
hi i live in scarborough, north yorkshire in england. im looking for a male or female cape dwarf chameleon im finding it quite hard to find anyone with any so if anyone has one weather its a baby or an adult (baby perferred) lol plemail me on [email protected] i have quite alot of reptile knowlege i have a water dragon and 3 sliders 2 yellow bellies an 1 red eared i used to have a cali king snake. i have been reading up about chams for a long time now and have decided im getting one so i hope anyone can help me.
thanks benjay
hi i live in scarborough, north yorkshire in england. im looking for a male or female cape dwarf chameleon im finding it quite hard to find anyone with any so if anyone has one weather its a baby or an adult (baby perferred) lol plemail me on [email protected] i have quite alot of reptile knowlege i have a water dragon and 3 sliders 2 yellow bellies an 1 red eared i used to have a cali king snake. i have been reading up about chams for a long time now and have decided im getting one so i hope anyone can help me.
thanks benjay
eisentrauti
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forget it...
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