Caring for a Chameleon in Alaska?

First off, hello! New to the forums! Happy to be here!
Onto my question, I figured this would be one of the best places to ask about this:
Long story short, I've been nose deep in Chameleon research, and I want to make sure I know everything I can before making any big moves. I know chameleons require very specific temperature and humidity conditions but, living in a relatively cold section of the world, I have some concerns.
Winters can lead to rather short days, and not a lot of natural sunlight for...Well, as long as our winters last ❄️☃️
It's also a relatively dry clime, too. I'm not sure how much the outside world of beyond the house walls affects keeping one of these guys around. The house itself tends to be kept warm, but I worry about having to turn things off for the night and it getting too cold regardless.
So, I wanted to know, is there a special sort of enclosure set up to go for that takes colder locations into consideration? Or is the recommended set ups (the lamps, the misting, the screen cages, etc.) able to stand up to the climate? I apologize if it's a noob question, but I couldn't really find anything conclusive.
 
Hi and welcome. :) I’m not sure I can provide the answers you are needing, but I’ll try. What type of chameleon are you thinking about getting? The care for each differs a bit. I would definitely suggest getting a hybrid enclosure that will help keep heat and humidity in and cold drafts out. You do want to make certain that it has adequate ventilation and air flow though. Usually having a screen front door is perfect. At the minimum, you will need ventilation input near to the bottom and then a screen top to achieve the chimney effect ventilation. Usually we say to have no heat at night, but this will depend on how cold it gets at night in your home. If it is often colder than 60-65, you will need a ceramic heat emitter for night use. You should also have a back up plan in the event that something happens that you lose power. If you don’t have a back up generator, wood stove/fireplace, how will you prevent a chameleon from freezing to death if a nasty winter storm takes out your power? You also want to take into consideration the availability of feeder insects. Many of us have to order from on line vendors to get a decent variety. Maybe your pet stores carry a wider selection though. You also need to look at if there is an exotics veterinarian in your area…just in case. There are chameleon keepers all over the world, and some just need to make some husbandry modifications to be successful. I do recall seeing people from Alaska here and there are plenty of Canadians who keep chams. If you haven’t already found it, this is a fantastic place to learn so very much. https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/ Hopefully I’ve been of some help to you. Maybe someone else who has better answers will pop in.
 
Hey there welcome to the forum. So first off you would be looking at setting up a hybrid style enclosure. But to add to that. Important things to know before you jump in would be what are your usual ambient house temps daytime and at night. and your ambient humidity both daytime and night.

This is where you would start because the species you choose would be dependent on what your natural levels would support.

Also since you live in a colder climate what do you have in place in case of a power outage? If you do not have a generator that can run lighting and your heat then this would be very risky with a chameleon.

I agree with reviewing the chameleon academy link posted for you above. And Neptune the Chameleon videos on youtube are a great source for additional correct info. Otherwise be extremely cautious where you get your husbandry info from because post places are inaccurate or outdated.
 
Thank you for the responses! And apologies for the late response, I've been reading a lot of pages from the provided link.
I'm interested in a veiled chameleon, m or f.
I did see mention of a hybrid set up, but also saw a looot of opinions on glass being utilized in enclosures, so I wasn't sure if it was up to date information. I'll learn more about hybrid set ups now that I'm nudged in that direction, as well as figuring my house's general temp and humidity levels🤔

As for power set up, that's true. Definitely a thing to be mindful of before committing. I do have a couple of back up batteries that could at least keep lamps and such on but it would suck if a storm knocked things out for more than a few hours. Good things to consider.
 
Thank you for the responses! And apologies for the late response, I've been reading a lot of pages from the provided link.
I'm interested in a veiled chameleon, m or f.
I did see mention of a hybrid set up, but also saw a looot of opinions on glass being utilized in enclosures, so I wasn't sure if it was up to date information. I'll learn more about hybrid set ups now that I'm nudged in that direction, as well as figuring my house's general temp and humidity levels🤔

As for power set up, that's true. Definitely a thing to be mindful of before committing. I do have a couple of back up batteries that could at least keep lamps and such on but it would suck if a storm knocked things out for more than a few hours. Good things to consider.
So you can buy something like this to get your baseline for ambient temp and humidity https://www.amazon.com/ThermoPro-TP...cphy=1013406&hvtargid=pla-2281435181178&psc=1

Glass can be tricky for chams, if not done perfectly they can develop respiratory infections. Most people have a hard time balancing their ambient levels in it but also the enclosures that are on the market are not made in a size big enough for a Veiled or a Panther. You want a 2x2x4 foot. Yes you can go wide and sacrifice some height but your depth has to be right or a mature cham can struggle in it.

Another thing would be do you have access to an exotic vet that actually has the know how to treat chameleons?

I would start off with a male of any species for your first. Females can come up with reproductive issues and egg laying issues even with the best of care.

For Veileds they can tolerate a night time temp drop down to 55. Most of us keep temps at night within that 60-65 range though. Below 55 your looking at issues of them not surviving them especially for prolonged periods if you had a power outage for days.
 
Thanks for the recc, I'll grab one and start figuring out the numbers.
As for the cage, following the link MissSkittles posted, and your dimensions, it seems like this cage might be a good idea.
Vets: I do see a couple, surprisingly, one place that even lists chameleons by name instead of just "reptiles". Everything is about a two hour drive away from me, however, more depending on the road conditions. That said, I'm super learning about all the things to look out for as early detection is crucial, so hopefully that time on the road would never be an issue

Definitely I will keep power outages in mind because I didn't consider it. I am on the lower end of alaska and haven't seen a power outage that was more than half a day in over a decade of being here, but being prepared is always a good idea!
 
Welcome to the forum and the world of chameleons!

Good that you are doing research before getting a chameleon!
I’d recommend that you start off with a male so that you don’t have to deal with reproductive issues that shorten the females’ lives if the husbandry isn’t spot on.

I live in Ontario, Canada and even here, I have issues keeping cages warm and humid enough in the winters. For many years, while other keepers were saying you have to use screen or hybrid cages, unused glass cages with screen lids that had the small vented area below the doors in the front of the cages. As long as you understand the chimney effect and set your cage up to create that, the glass cages work well.

Regarding power outages, the heat issue can be helped by using those hand warmer packs like these…just don’t put them somewhere that the chameleon can stand on it or rest against it and end up with a burn…
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/...-of-warmth-instant-heat-10-pair-0750057p.html

Having a wood burning fireplace (or similar heat source, can also be very useful of course.
 
Hello, kinyonga!
I am interested in your set up since you live in a similar kind of place.
I actually don't have a fireplace or anything, now that I think about it. The heatpacks look handy in a pinch; noted!

Also, thanks for the reply Beman. I'll jot that cage down then.
(Also I will look into a boy cham, then. Is 6 months or older a good place to start? ie, can they live in an adult sized cage from that age?)
 
Hello, kinyonga!
I am interested in your set up since you live in a similar kind of place.
I actually don't have a fireplace or anything, now that I think about it. The heatpacks look handy in a pinch; noted!

Also, thanks for the reply Beman. I'll jot that cage down then.
(Also I will look into a boy cham, then. Is 6 months or older a good place to start? ie, can they live in an adult sized cage from that age?)
4 months or older. Nothing younger, a reputable breeder typically will not sell babies until they reach the 4 month mark. They need a bit of size on them for best success. And at that age they can go right into the big cage.
 
I'm still waiting on the ambient temp and humidity checker to arrive in the mail.
I'm seeing now that there aren't really reputable breeders of veiled chameleons. I was interested in going with framschams whenever they do have veileds, but I just learned they don't ship to Alaska.
I was interested in veileds because of their slight bit of longevity and general affordability (I don't feel confident with $600 lizzies without handson experience with proper husbandry) but it's a bit difficult to locate one.
Of course, I wouldn't imagine ordering one in our cold months, but I can't imagine much will change come spring/summer.
Anywhere you kind folk would recommend keeping an eye on?
 
I'm still waiting on the ambient temp and humidity checker to arrive in the mail.
I'm seeing now that there aren't really reputable breeders of veiled chameleons. I was interested in going with framschams whenever they do have veileds, but I just learned they don't ship to Alaska.
I was interested in veileds because of their slight bit of longevity and general affordability (I don't feel confident with $600 lizzies without handson experience with proper husbandry) but it's a bit difficult to locate one.
Of course, I wouldn't imagine ordering one in our cold months, but I can't imagine much will change come spring/summer.
Anywhere you kind folk would recommend keeping an eye on?

I think living in Alaska what you have got for a thermostat and heating source is important. I would not buy a chameleon if you only have got a wood stove. However if you have got a thermostat that can keep temperatures between 50-90 Fahrenheit all for seasons Chamaeleo calypatratus and Furcifer pardalis are consideration. When considering a species your home stays around 50-59 Fahrenheit for a couple months I would consider keeping cooler weather species probably genus Kinyongia or Trioceros. Chamaeleo calypatratus and Furcifer pardalis are not good species as they require warmer weather.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
 
I'm still waiting on the ambient temp and humidity checker to arrive in the mail.
I'm seeing now that there aren't really reputable breeders of veiled chameleons. I was interested in going with framschams whenever they do have veileds, but I just learned they don't ship to Alaska.
I was interested in veileds because of their slight bit of longevity and general affordability (I don't feel confident with $600 lizzies without handson experience with proper husbandry) but it's a bit difficult to locate one.
Of course, I wouldn't imagine ordering one in our cold months, but I can't imagine much will change come spring/summer.
Anywhere you kind folk would recommend keeping an eye on?
Just keep in mind Veiled cham vs Panther cham. They are both equally as difficult. I feel like there is a misconception within the hobby as far as longevity. Male Panthers and Male Veileds both have an average lifespan of 5 years. Some can live longer 8 years. But to get to these older ages the husbandry needs to be spot on. And a veiled can get a respiratory infection or MBD just as easily as a Panther chameleon. While they are more affordable than a panther keep in mind you will be spending easily $1000 on proper set up for the cham. This is actually not even a high number. I have over $2500 into my set up. Don't base it off the cost of the chameleon. Base it off what you like most because your all in financially is going to be high and you might as well have what you really like since this is a long term commitment.
 
Thanks for the replies!

It's also worth mentioning I am interested in veileds for their looks too. The casque is just so Classic Chameleon to me. Thanks for clearing up the misconception also, I have been super educating myself about their health issues in my research to get an idea of what to look out for.

@Motherlode, I have a proper heat source in my house and keep the tank filled :) I also have portable radiators around the house to help even more with maintaining a comfortable temperature. I am also looking into a backup kit for times where power may go out.
 
The room I'm thinking about setting up for the chameleon sits at around 64-66 fahrenheit with humidity at 40%. This is in the middle of winter, but it's worth noting that this year we're having a rainy, green winter (Weird, I know!)
Is this the sort of temps you'd employ a ceramic heat emitter at night for? I saw some advice against it saying you can burn your cham, but maybe it has to do with improper wattage?
I'd appreciate your insight! Thanks!
 
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