Chameleons Getting Along?

[kirbee]

I already have some knowledge of the nature of how chameleons are usually territorial when it comes to being around other chams and especially how keeping multiple chams in an enclosure together is a big 'NO-NO,' but I was just wondering something:

Has there been any instances where chameleons HAVE gotten along? Not necessarily in the same enclosure, but when brought together not get so aggressive towards each other? Possibly, has anyone ever had an experience where they have multiple chameleons, and have had them together without any trouble or stress?

 

[Enochlg]

I'm not sure, but I know as babies/young ones get along & can live in groups in the same enclosure. I wonder at what she do they stop getting along...

 

[CarlyMK]

I already have some knowledge of the nature of how chameleons are usually territorial when it comes to being around other chams and especially how keeping multiple chams in an enclosure together is a big 'NO-NO,' but I was just wondering something:

Has there been any instances where chameleons HAVE gotten along? Not necessarily in the same enclosure, but when brought together not get so aggressive towards each other? Possibly, has anyone ever had an experience where they have multiple chameleons, and have had them together without any trouble or stress?

You should check out the page by "The Chameleon Farm" on facebook, they seem to free range many chameleons that don't mind being around each other. Although, they have a huge free range area that allow all of them to have their own space. Maybe ask them for some info on how it's done, I've only ever heard that they shouldn't be raised together as well, so I was surprised when I stumbled across them! I'm not affiliated with them or anything, I just find their pictures and chameleons beautiful!

 

[Fearaffect]

Chameleon Farm(photoprincess) and House of Chameleons both free range their chams in a fairly large area. They dont keep chams that dont get along together though, and watch them in case of any altercations arise between the chams. They dont let(as a general rule) females inter mingle with males(Chameleon Farm though keeps their melleri together, regardless of male or female).

Ive been to Chameleon Farm's place, and its quite impressive.

They both also tend not to keep the same species males together(melleri an exception).

https://www.facebook.com/ChameleonCommunity?ref=ts&fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/TheChameleonFarm?ref=ts&fref=ts

 

[pssh]

Yes, chameleons can get along with each other when an experienced keeper does it (and occasionally when an inexperienced keeper does it.) It depends on the genders, if the animals are the same size, the individual temperaments of the animals, the amount of space/food/heat/hiding places the animals have, and sometimes the species. Usually, a large amount of space is needed with several basking spots, misting spots, feeding areas, hiding places, and perches. Some species are more likely to get along with each other than others. Sometimes even animals of different species will get along too. It really depends on the keeper and the animals. Some animals will only get along when they are free ranged (and not caged.) I know a breeder who has a whole room dedicated to free ranging panther males that get along. There are no females to prevent fighting as much as possible, and there is so much room that each animal can have its own space when they want it (though the few times I have been there, many males have walked over to another and sat right beside the other male with no issues.) The males that will not get along with the others are house separately.

Unfortunately, often times, the animals may seem to not bother each other but the animals end up becoming very stressed out but the signs are so difficult to see that many keepers (even very experienced ones) wouldn't notice. They can hide the stress and illnesses they get so well that we keepers may not even see it until the animal is on death's door. The best case scenario? The animals get along alright and might even appear to seek out each other's presence. Worst case scenario? One or both animals die from fighting/bullying, stress, or competition for resources.

 

[kirbee]

You should check out the page by "The Chameleon Farm" on facebook, they seem to free range many chameleons that don't mind being around each other. Although, they have a huge free range area that allow all of them to have their own space. Maybe ask them for some info on how it's done, I've only ever heard that they shouldn't be raised together as well, so I was surprised when I stumbled across them! I'm not affiliated with them or anything, I just find their pictures and chameleons beautiful!

I just checked them out on their facebook. I agree! What they have going on is sooo awesome! Thanks for sharing

 

[kirbee]

Chameleon Farm(photoprincess) and House of Chameleons both free range their chams in a fairly large area. They dont keep chams that dont get along together though, and watch them in case of any altercations arise between the chams. They dont let(as a general rule) females inter mingle with males(Chameleon Farm though keeps their melleri together, regardless of male or female).

Ive been to Chameleon Farm's place, and its quite impressive.

They both also tend not to keep the same species males together(melleri an exception).

https://www.facebook.com/ChameleonCommunity?ref=ts&fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/TheChameleonFarm?ref=ts&fref=ts

Man, thanks for sharing these. I think what they have going on is so great! That's so cool that you actually visited there, it says that it's not open to the public, how'd you get to visit?? I think I might want to do something similar, by keeping different species males and have them be familiar with each other so they don't get too aggressive?

 

[kirbee]

Yes, chameleons can get along with each other when an experienced keeper does it (and occasionally when an inexperienced keeper does it.) It depends on the genders, if the animals are the same size, the individual temperaments of the animals, the amount of space/food/heat/hiding places the animals have, and sometimes the species. Usually, a large amount of space is needed with several basking spots, misting spots, feeding areas, hiding places, and perches. Some species are more likely to get along with each other than others. Sometimes even animals of different species will get along too. It really depends on the keeper and the animals. Some animals will only get along when they are free ranged (and not caged.) I know a breeder who has a whole room dedicated to free ranging panther males that get along. There are no females to prevent fighting as much as possible, and there is so much room that each animal can have its own space when they want it (though the few times I have been there, many males have walked over to another and sat right beside the other male with no issues.) The males that will not get along with the others are house separately.

Unfortunately, often times, the animals may seem to not bother each other but the animals end up becoming very stressed out but the signs are so difficult to see that many keepers (even very experienced ones) wouldn't notice. They can hide the stress and illnesses they get so well that we keepers may not even see it until the animal is on death's door. The best case scenario? The animals get along alright and might even appear to seek out each other's presence. Worst case scenario? One or both animals die from fighting/bullying, stress, or competition for resources.

Ahh that makes sense though, it might be something I want to try in the future; having two different male species kept in the same area. I wouldn't want them to have a hard time though. The Chameleon Farm is great, they definitely have something great going on.

 

[Olimpia]

It's certainly not recommended but it can be done. I raised 4 panthers, a Jackson's, and a female veiled together (all under a year old) and set them free in a small room free range. The female had to be separated when she reached sexual maturity as she would fight the males for total and absolute rights to the feeding bin! And the Jackson's would try to mount my Nosy Be male, so he was separated, but he would seek out my big Ambilobe to hang out together.

It really was a super interesting experience, but I was home a lot between classes to observe them.

The feeding bin:

Shower time, drinking off of each other:

 

[jannb]

All of my guys free range and all the panther boys free range in my livingroom, dinningroom area. The four get along but only two are best buds.


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