Clipped tail ambilobe

jwthought

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Hi all,
I recently purchased a 4-5 month old amiblobe male from FL Chams. I have had him for about 5 days now. He arrived fine in every way, except he is missing about 2/3 of his tail (which I knew about when I purchased him). He is roughly 6 inches in total length. I have him housed outside in a 3ft x 3 ft x 3 ft enclosure, which is made of a pvc frame and plastic screening. The enclosure is heavily planted. I live in Florida Keys, so it's hot and humid. His enclosure receives sunlight from about 8 AM until about 2 pm, but after about 11 am, the sunlight is dispersed throughout his cage because of a nearby tree whose foliage creates alot of shade in the enclosure.

He is fed about 10 crix per day, which are calcium dusted every other day. Water is delivered via a dripper, and his enclosure is automatically misted 3 times a day in 15 minute intervals. I dont think this is too much given the climate he is in. The enclosure dries out pretty quickly.

My concern is that he is ALWAYS on the screen and on the top of the cage and usually displaying dark, maybe even stressed colors. I can't figure out what his deal is. It seems to me that his husbandry is right on. It has been raining alot for the last few days, but there is still plenty of sunshine to give him the opportunity to bask and warm up. As far as I know, he cannot see any potential predators and I know he cannot see any of my other chams.

He also has pretty bad aim with his tongue, which I noticed the first time i fed him. I basically have to hold the crix right in front of his face. He does eat very well. He also has a touch of orange coloration in his urates, but I cannot see how he couls possibly be dehydrated with all the water that he has access to.

I wonder if the missing tail throws off his balance to a point where he is not comfortable navigating in the foliage and perhaps he find it easier to move about on the screening?

I know any advice is difficult given that there is no pic, but any insights or ideas are greatly appreciated.

Thanks very much,
Josh
 
I have a clipped tail Panther and she navigates just fine despite the fact that she cannot grip anything with her tail. Your new one may just be exploring, or he may be getting better light hanging off of the screen. Several of my chams when new would cling to the screens and eventually they started hanging out on the branches more. A picture of your enclosure would be great.
 
Thanks. Yeah, I was thinking about the light idea. Also, Im hoping that he's just getting familiar with his new surroundings. Ill post a pic of his enclosure in a day or so.
 
Hey Josh! Great to "see" you again!! Do I dare ask - is Lola still around? Of course you remember Luna, she was missing part of her tail but not as much as you are describing, more like 1/3. She was able to use it somewhat and managed pretty well. She was about 4 months when I got her and she would often climb on the top and circle in pat how she got her name b/c she often did it when the lights went out!). Cyrus, the panther (nosy be) that I have now was quite the screen climber when he was young and did a number on his front nails. He has pretty much stopped but every now and again he will use the screen to get from one place to another. Your guy is probably just adjusting to his new digs, but watch where he is going and add branches/vines as needed. I made some adjustments today to try and keep Cy off the screen.

Hope things are well in your world and glad you found this forum - and that you stick around ;)

lele
 
I agree with lele. First week or so in a new enclosure is always a bit rough for these little fellas. I even notice a mood change if i happen to move anything during a monthly clean of the cage where i take everything out... i cant quite place everything the same as it was before, and believe it or not, they can tell.. that is the ONLY time my chams ever hung out on the screens. Give it a few days, minimize your presence around him to an absolute minimum for the next few days (feeding and thats about it) and report back later this weekend!
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. Hopefully, it's just an exploration/comfort thing.

Hey Lele! how are you? Sadly, no, Lola is not here any more. She dies about 2 years ago after a bunch of complications with her sugery. After that I kept and bred a pair of jax for while, then I gave them away when I moved from NJ to FL. I didnt keep chams again until about 2 weeks ago when I ordered a mitsio male and the ambilobe in question.

Lola was also missing a part of her tail after her surgery (she was a female veiled who became eggbound), and she never seemed the same without it. Her aim with her tongue became poor and her colors where usually dark. This is why Im paying such close attention to my new guy.

Anyway, thanks again. Any other thoughts are appreciated.
 
When they are smaller babies, sometimes they will be going for crickets and bite off the end of anothers tail...
 
Hey Lele! how are you? Sadly, no, Lola is not here any more. She dies about 2 years ago after a bunch of complications with her sugery. After that I kept and bred a pair of jax for while, then I gave them away when I moved from NJ to FL.

Sorry to hear, but she was a trooper when a few of us were having trouble with our girls. I do remember you having Jax, so maybe I did know about losing Lola. You may have popped on the board or maybe a private email. Anyway, glad you are here and I am sure all will be well with your new guys :)
 
According to Mike from FLChams, my guy was in a cage with a biter when he was a hatchling. That's why the clipping.
 
my panther has been dark lately too, sometimes they just don't being in captivity, I try to do as much as I can to make sure they have a lush landscape, and also i've noticed after sheds and long slow, luke warm misting sessions(2 gallons) that he shows his brights again, i think they just don't like being outdoors too much this time of year
 
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