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chamzilla91

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About 5 or 6 months ago I went to the pet store to get calcium suppliments and somehow (probably due to the fact of me being dislexic and overly tired that day) read the label wrong so that I read it as saying calcium without vitamin d3 but in fact I just realized today that it was calcium WITH vitamin d3 D: soo for my female veileds whole 6 month life she was getting calcium with d3 every feeding and then repcal calcium w/d3 twice a month and herptivite twice a month. As soon as I realized it said with d3 I had to do a double take and read it again then get one of my family members to read it again to see if I wasn't mistaken on what I was reading. And sure enough it was w/d3 so I was likepanicking on if I may have harmed my cham by doing this and I ordered repcal without d3 and it should be here in like 3 days. I feel sooo bad about this, and anyone could you tell me what problems she could have from this?
 
I am not sure if there will be any repercussions. I actually made a similar mistake (i just didn't know what d3 was, i thought calcium was calcium and that's all) ...my girl went months with d3 almost every day then i switched to a standard schedual with no problems whatsoever
 
I assume it's the RepCal with D3?
If that's the case you've definitely been over supplementing the D3 recently and should cut back a bit.

I've heard some info that we're really not giving out chams enough D3 with the typical schedule that is recommended here, so I doubt you did any major damage to your Cham.
 
Psi, I accidentally read the label wrong on my calcium and thought it said without d3. So I had two d3 calciums and a herptivite. It was flukers calcium that I accidentally bought. Soo she has been getting calcium with d3 everyday for 6 months :( but she seems healthy and has an extremely strong grip and good appetite. I was wondering if that much d3 could caus any organ damage or anything like that. I will put pictures of her tomorrow if that would help at all
 
I actually think flukers has a low enough IU/Kg that you could use it daily without issue.

Check the container, see what the IU/Kg reads at.
 
It says its 100,000 iu/pound. The repcal says 400,000 iu/kg. And 1 pound is .453 kg so would that make the flukers 50,000 iu/kg? Or am I completely off lol
 
Lol seems like we all posted about the same time so I feel kinda dumb sayin what you two both said. Except I just kinda estimated on the conversion from pounds to kg. But if it has just a low amount of d3 would I be able to use that everyday and cut out the repcal calcium with d3?
 
Just to reassure you- your chameleon will probably be fine.

I used rep-cal with d3 every feeding throughout the 1990s on lots of chameleons (thousands if you count babies I raised and sold) when they were indoors and never saw evidence of an overdose.

Just switch to the currently recommended usage here on the forums which is considered safe and proceed from here on in with that.

as for the 400,000 iu/kg vs the 50,000 iu/kg vs the whatever minerall has-

Nobody here on the forums ever considers the amount of product that actually sticks to the feeder insects. I am unfamiliar with the flukers product, but am very familiar with miner-all and rep-cal and minerall sticks far, far better than the rep-cal. Therefore much more of the product is going to be effectively delivered to the lizard than the rep-cal product. What this means in terms of actual amount of d3 delivered- I don't know, someone with a lot of bugs and a very sensitive scale could work it out though. What I do know is that if rep-cal takes 5 times as many insects to deliver a kg of the product as it takes miner-all, then the dose of d3 actually delivered on a daily basis via the rep-cal is going to be far less than if you figure both products stick to insects equally well. And they do not. Not even close. Furthermore a few minutes after being offered, uneaten insects remaining have an even wider gap between products of dust remaining on the insect. Rep-cal insects de-dust pretty quickly compared to miner-all for example. So if you are in the habit of feeding more than will be eaten within 5 minutes, the gap of effective delivery gets even wider and even less d3 is being delivered to the lizard via the rep-cal.
 
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So I'm chiming in to ask because I seem to have confused myself... I use the flukers.. Is that safe for every feeding or what?
 
They get shaken up in a little plastic bag that you get fish in from the pet store and I put them in a cup and she eats them within 20 seconds of the insects getting in her sight. But I just hope that she doesn't have any damage done from d3 overdose or somethin like that
 
She had a little bit of signs when I first got her with a little bit of a tiny dent on the front middle of her casque. It is a little bit better now and has not gotten wors. No other signs of mbd that I can tell. Im taking her to the vet over the summer to get a checkup on her health and test for parasites and stuff
 
She is not lethargic anymore. I do still think that she is starting to produce a clutch though. I am not completely sure why she was being like that before, now she doesn't get sunken eyes and has all white urate and is very alert and active(for a chameleon) she recently within the last week developed blue turquoise, and the orange splotches that signal sexual maturity (and I think receptiveness?) A question I have about her color is that after she was about 2 or 3 months old the yellow/creme color spots along her sides would turn orange/ red, is that normal?
 
I am still waiting for the calcium w/out d3 to come in the mail. I have not dusted any of her food for the past two days. I decided that it is a good time to switch her feedings to every other day. So she got 4 crickets and 2 butterworms today and she also got about two hours in the sun today, here are some pictures of her, her cage, my suppliments dripper spray bottle, uvb light, and her gettin some sun today https://picasaweb.google.com/112223574612271896265/DropBox
 
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