Dart Frogs

Decadancin

Decadancin

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So... does anyone know the best source for info on poison dart frog care? I would love to get some, eventually, but can't find too much info about their care and habits. Does anyone have enclosures with different types living together? I don't know if I could choose! I would assume this would not be common practice, but if their colors were not similar, would they be O.K.? (do I sound like most of our first posts on this forum? He He) Thanks for the tips and info.
 
JonRich said:
lol, I'm already on the board. I have'nt posted yet for the backlash. When i finish the exoterra and i get them seperated then i'll post.
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yes, like all good forums there are some very serious sorts there. I tend to lurk more than post myself - plenty to learn without being in the line of fire
 
Great site below:

http://saurian.net/froginfo_main.html

http://saurian.net/frog_main.html

There is a lot of hostility on the dart boards. This may seem overdone, but realize most dart enthusiasts are deeply serious about species preservation and with good reason as many are nearing extinction.
I doubt the serious cham keepers here would advocate mixing rare locales of panthers or intermixing Parsons. It is hard to get over picking them just for looks, but you should really try to start w just one species and care for them for awhile. In general, the husbandry is more intensive than chams due to need for high humidity, closed tanks, and flies for food. It is VERY addictive so start slow. Just like this board, you can get great answers and find well-bred animals on the boards, just be respectful and listen to members advice as many have been in the hobby for decades.
 
Turningdoc said:
Great site below:

http://saurian.net/froginfo_main.html

http://saurian.net/frog_main.html

There is a lot of hostility on the dart boards. This may seem overdone, but realize most dart enthusiasts are deeply serious about species preservation and with good reason as many are nearing extinction.
I doubt the serious cham keepers here would advocate mixing rare locales of panthers or intermixing Parsons. It is hard to get over picking them just for looks, but you should really try to start w just one species and care for them for awhile. In general, the husbandry is more intensive than chams due to need for high humidity, closed tanks, and flies for food. It is VERY addictive so start slow. Just like this board, you can get great answers and find well-bred animals on the boards, just be respectful and listen to members advice as many have been in the hobby for decades.
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I know. There are amazing keepers on the Dendorboard and even more amazing animals. Because these are frogletts is the only reason i have them housed together rite now while being QTed. They will be placed into individual enclosures within the next week or so and i will add others to form groups.

I just don't want to be blasted on the board if posted. I'm all for not mixing.
 
Thanks guys! I love all the info! I will be lurking in the shadows with you for a while! I'll post pics here if I take the plunge, but for now its just info gathering phase. ;) I can see how you could get caught in another addictive hobby!!! :eek:
 
if you want something that can live in groups most thumbnails and leucomelas do great in groups. But tincs are best to keep in 1.1 pair ive head of even males killing each other.
 
poison said:
if you want something that can live in groups most thumbnails and leucomelas do great in groups. But tincs are best to keep in 1.1 pair ive head of even males killing each other.
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Ya I have 5 leucs happily in one group.

I have three tinc, two male one female. I think its the females that compete for territory, if there's not enough space? Anyways my three are happy together (and breeding, unfortunately)

Mantella also do well in groups. I've got about 9 in there, seemingly very happy (and breeding, unfortunately).

good to know about the thumbnails! thanks for that tip!
 
IMO best starter frogs for a group are Phyllobates terribilis. Big, bold, noncompetitive and kick ass feeding behaviors. Will take all kinds of flies and even small crix.

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Also in yellow, gold, mint, and soon blackfoot
 
oh thank you for that recommendation! I've been trying to decide between some mints and some tincs. The mints are more expensive, but they seemed worth it. I like knowing that they eat well/easily.
 
O.K., now its going to be even harder to choose! (but I guess that's why I asked!) Great info and thanks again!!!!
 
Decadancin said:
O.K., now its going to be even harder to choose! (but I guess that's why I asked!) Great info and thanks again!!!!
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I suspect that whatever you pick, you'll be pleased. They are all so very kewl!

One thing I've learned that you might like to know - bean beetles/weavils and tropical TI are really great feeder prey choices and EASY to breed.
Fruit Flies is likely what you'll feed your frogs a lot of, as I do. But try to mix the diet up as much as possible, just like for chameleons. Bean beetles are beyond easy - easier and less stinky than flies. Tropical terrestrial isopods (or standard size) and spring tails make excellent clean-up crews, PLUS they are readily eaten by the frogs. Baby mealworms and silkworms and termite babies are nice treats to add variety.
 
sandrachameleon said:
I suspect that whatever you pick, you'll be pleased. They are all so very kewl!

One thing I've learned that you might like to know - bean beetles/weavils and tropical TI are really great feeder prey choices and EASY to breed.
Fruit Flies is likely what you'll feed your frogs a lot of, as I do. But try to mix the diet up as much as possible, just like for chameleons. Bean beetles are beyond easy - easier and less stinky than flies. Tropical terrestrial isopods (or standard size) and spring tails make excellent clean-up crews, PLUS they are readily eaten by the frogs. Baby mealworms and silkworms and termite babies are nice treats to add variety.
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Do the TI's live in the substrate? These guys will breed in the enclosure, right? Or do you release them a little at a time?
 
If its what I think, they are like pill bugs or sow bugs. I'm not sure if they are the same thing, but something like it.
 
Correct. isopods are "pill bugs". most dart keepersuse the dwarf forms which are about 1/8 the size of greys most people are familiar with. They eat the detris in the tanks and multiply readily to be eaten by the frogs. They are slow to multiply, however, so are not good as main food source.
 
Decadancin said:
Do the TI's live in the substrate? These guys will breed in the enclosure, right? Or do you release them a little at a time?
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Yes, they will ive in the enclosure. I also keep cultures going separately. They dont breed as fast as flies so I keep a few cultures going outside the enclosures, to keep numbers up. Easy to gutload.

lisagr07 said:
What's a "tropical TI"? Thanks,, lisa
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Terrestrial isopod. Usually white and smaller than the domestic/normal ones you might find in your garden (though I use those too - captive bred, not wild caught)

Decadancin said:
If its what I think, they are like pill bugs or sow bugs. I'm not sure if they are the same thing, but something like it.
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yes!
 
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