Dead backend?

ok guys got home from the vet. I took a stool sample to the vet being that there was plenty to choose from...

The vet found that Scooter has Coccidia. It is apparently a parasite that can bind up his digestive tract thus causing an impaction. The vet didnt see it before because scooter couldnt poop before. But we have even more meds now and hopefully within teh week scooter will be scootin around again as a healthy cham can!

-Justin
 
This is what we found when we came downstares this morning.
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I would say that in 2 days he has made about a 90% recovery. This little man is a serious fighter. I may have to change his name to bruce Lee or Chuck Norris cuz you cant keep him down!

He is on his vine on his own able to grip it with 3 out of 4 legs, the 4th he is still having trouble lifting onto the vine but the way he is moving it seems tomarow may be the day hes back to 100% hes moving quik!!
 
hes definately doing alot better. He faught us like he was given a new bid on health this morning. he DID NOT want his meds today! unfortunately for him, he doesnt have a choice. He got his meds and he was pissed!
 
Well as long as he's giving you ATTITUDE you know that he's doing well !! ;)

It's so nice when we hear stories of chams in bad scenarios that make great recoveries! I'm sure that soon he'll be running away from you when you open his cage! LOLOL

Dyesub Dave. :D
 
Dyesub Dave said:
Well as long as he's giving you ATTITUDE you know that he's doing well !! ;)

It's so nice when we hear stories of chams in bad scenarios that make great recoveries! I'm sure that soon he'll be running away from you when you open his cage! LOLOL

Dyesub Dave. :D
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OH YAY! I get to look forward to an attitude prblem! :p
 
Great News!!!!

I am so happy for you and Scooter! Coccidia is a nasty thing to have. Albon is probably what you got to treat it. The vet probably told you that it takes some effort to eradicate it from your caging. The eggs/spores, etc. can live for a year on a dry surface. You need to completely disinfect everything (cage, plants, climbing things) with a bleach/water/soap solution). It's easier if you take everything outside and use a garden hose. You need to do it now to get rid of the eggs/spores so he does not get reinfected. Then you need to to the whole thing again after the treatment is complete. Then I would have another fecal done about a month after the treatment is completed. Coccidia and Trichamonas are two of the hardest things to get rid of. They are easily spread because of the long life on dry surfaces. These two things are fairly common too. Dogs and cats that are outside a lot can get it too. We adopted a cat that was living outside our house. He had coccidia. It's great that you got this solved. A rectal prolapse is another thing that could have happened to him because of this.
 
Howdy,

As Catherine said, coccidia can be tough to eradicate but worth the effort. I'm in the middle of treating one of mine right now. Timid, my ~5yr-old male Veiled went out for stud services and appears to have got more than he signed-up for :(. I haven't had access to testing the source yet but he went out clean and came back with coccidia. My using Albon. Coccidia is a protozoan parasite that invades cells and damages them. Here's a couple of photos that I took at 100x and 400x of coccidian oocysts captured after a fecal float:

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Dave Weldon said:
Howdy,

As Catherine said, coccidia can be tough to eradicate but worth the effort. I'm in the middle of treating one of mine right now. Timid, my ~5yr-old male Veiled went out for stud services and appears to have got more than he signed-up for :(. I haven't had access to testing the source yet but he went out clean and came back with coccidia. My using Albon. Coccidia is a protozoan parasite that invades cells and damages them. Here's a couple of photos that I took at 100x and 400x of coccidian oocysts captured after a fecal float:
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Just curious, Dave- Did you notice symptoms, or do you routinely do fecals on your chams. Or, is it your practice to check your chams after they've been out for stud service? We have had fecals done by the vet, and all clean so far.

We just received our microscope Thursday. The fluids and fecalizers arrived yesterday, the slides should arrive Monday. We will do initial tests. Treat, if necessary (will need to visit a vet for exam and treatment stuff). But then, once all the chams are clean, how often should we check feces? Our chams won't be out for stud service, but they could get something via their feeders, I guess. Do you do floats and smears, or just floats?
 
Howdy,

Basically, I did the fecal after the stud service visit as a precaution. I had been monitoring him about once a month before that visit. My interest in testing was to see if any parasites would show-up from any source while my chameleons go about their daily lives. What I've found so far is that when they are parasite-free they seem to stay that way. I haven't found any store-bought insect feeder to be a source of the usual gut-based parasite.

I've tested many other keeper's chameleon fecal samples and they've ranged from clean to loaded. Sometimes I do a smear and a float on one slide. I'm cheap and usually use one slide and use two slide covers on it :). I do a lot more floats than smears though.

Have fun with your 'scope!
 
Great Posts!!!!

Great posts Dave! I love the picture showing the Coccidia! I'm also interested in finding out if my chams get anything from day to day living in my house. And good deal Gesang, getting the stuff to do it yourself. Over time you will save a lot of $$ and have the security of knowing that you are on top of the situation.

Coccidia often causes runny and smelly poops.....Not always though. It is a pain to get rid of but worth it as Dave mentioned. Dogs and cats in your house can get it too. It's another good reason to always wash your hands after and between handling reptiles. You can touch a branch in one cage, go to another cage and touch something in that cage and spread it. It occurs outside naturally and is found in water and soil. I think I mentioned that my husband and I adopted a cat that was living out in our back yard. He had super smelly doo doos. Extremely smelly. He had Coccidia. He was quarantined in a spare bedroom for several weeks.

Great thread :)
 
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