do you see the pink throat, and that is obviously a female, and i have found zero photos of a male

[Doyle5132]

Now looks female now that your chameleon has matured a bit. Keep us posted on THIS thread, because otherwise nobody gets alerts.

so the breeder says i can go exchange should i

 

[CJ's Exotics]

so the breeder says i can go exchange should i

What is the breeder?

 

[Doyle5132]

What is the breeder?

hes jut a local breeder

 

[CJ's Exotics]

hes jut a local breeder

OK, what he trade you for? (It all depends on the situation.)

 

[Doyle5132]

OK, what he trade you for? (It all depends on the situation.)

he would exchange for a different 3-4 month old ambilobe panther chameleon. that i could select.

 

[CJ's Exotics]

he would exchange for a different 3-4 month old ambilobe panther chameleon. that i could select.

OK, the decision is yours.

 

[Doyle5132]

OK, the decision is yours.

well i payed extra for a male, but when i go to pick a different baby out i need to be sure its a male

 

[CJ's Exotics]

well i payed extra for a male, but when i go to pick a different baby out i need to be sure its a male

OK, just remember that hemipenal bulges don't have to be obvious to indicate male.

 

[Doyle5132]

OK, just remember that hemipenal bulges don't have to be obvious to indicate male.

ok the breeder sent me all of these photos, she says they are all males, can you confirm

 

[Doyle5132]

they are all supposed to be males?

 

[CJ's Exotics]

they are all supposed to be males?

They look all male. The 4th and 5th picture it is hard to tell though.

 

[Doyle5132]

They look all male. The 4th and 5th picture it is hard to tell though.

ok which photo is the most obvious, I'm sorry I'm being so needy, its just a 4 hour drive and i don't want drive out there again after tomorrow

 

[CJ's Exotics]

Hard to say guaranteed, I don't want you to make the drive for nothing, they seem really young. Ask your breeder how old are they.

 

[carol5208]

the first photo is not my chameleon its a female i found a photo of. these photos are mine which I've been told is most likely a male

These pictures are of a female. There is no bulge when they are this young.

 

[carol5208]

ok which photo is the most obvious, I'm sorry I'm being so needy, its just a 4 hour drive and i don't want drive out there again after tomorrow

The first photo is a male for sure.

 

[Doyle5132]

These pictures are of a female. There is no bulge when they are this young.

wait what, these are the chameleons the breeder says are males, i can see several slight hemi penal bulges in these photos of several chameleon in the photos. what evidence do you have that they are ALL females

 

[Doyle5132]

Hard to say guaranteed, I don't want you to make the drive for nothing, they seem really young. Ask your breeder how old are they.

they are 3-4 months old

 

[Doyle5132]

hwo

The first photo is a male for sure.

do you know. you believe this fellow is a male WHY?!

 

[carol5208]

hwo

do you know. you believe this fellow is a male WHY?!

Because of the tail base. Males this young do not have bulges yet, but the tail pretty much extends straight out from the vent like this one.. Females have a thinner tail base and there is a small indent after the vent. Have you looked at the "Kent Vent" method on how to sex panthers? I am confident that is a male. You cannot go by coloring or because there is red in their throat. You have to go by the Tail/vent area.

 

[carol5208]

wait what, these are the chameleons the breeder says are males, i can see several slight hemi penal bulges in these photos of several chameleon in the photos. what evidence do you have that they are ALL females

People confuse bulges with the actual vent itself. I think that is what you are seeing. There is no hemipenal bulge in those photos.