ebola
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happiness
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Phew. That's good to know. I'll tell my cousin who told me about it! She's been freaking out more then I have.
Chase
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I think they are trying to keep people from panicing, but at the same time they're doing nothing to prevent any sort of outbreak from happening. As said before, there should have been some preventive border control in terms of flights.
From what I've read, the virus actually is fairly difficult to contract. This sort of reminds me of when the H1N1 virus was going around and there was a lot of worry and panic.
Chase
From what I've read, the virus actually is fairly difficult to contract. This sort of reminds me of when the H1N1 virus was going around and there was a lot of worry and panic.
Chase
RyU
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I'd be more worried about parasites than Ebola. I think only primates and bats have been known carriers so far. There are diseases you can contract from lizards, and salmonella is one of them. There is more info here if you're curious.
http://www.hpsc.ie/A-Z/Zoonotic/ReptilesandRisksofInfectiousDiseases/
http://www.hpsc.ie/A-Z/Zoonotic/ReptilesandRisksofInfectiousDiseases/
In 25+ years of keeping reptiles I have never had salmonella or the other illnesses mentioned from my reptiles and in dozens of autopsies that were done only once did salmonella show up.
As for reptile parasites...most are species specific and can't live in the human body. There may be the odd one that can and those could definitely cause problems if they were "misdirected" by the body and ended up in an unusual place in the body.
Good hygiene will prevent most of those mentioned from being transmitted.
I'm much more worried about ebola.
As for reptile parasites...most are species specific and can't live in the human body. There may be the odd one that can and those could definitely cause problems if they were "misdirected" by the body and ended up in an unusual place in the body.
Good hygiene will prevent most of those mentioned from being transmitted.
I'm much more worried about ebola.
Psychobunny
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Anyone know anyone in Purdon Texas who can confirm this?
The small town of Purdon, Texas has been quarantined after a family of five tested positive for the Ebola virus.
Purdon is located just 70 miles from Dallas, Texas, and the hospital that has cared for both American Ebola patients, Thomas Eric Duncan, and Texas nurse, Nina Pham.
The CDC wasted no time sealing up the rest of the town’s denizens, and has stopped all traffic entering and exiting Purdon, TX. As of 10 Pm, Oct. 13th area has been surrounded with police and CDC officials. Communications with the locals seems to have been cut off, and press is currently awaiting an official statement from local authorities.
If this were true, it would be front-line news. I see no mention.
I figure its a hoax.
RyU
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As a nurse, I agree with you. I'm talking strictly transmission through reptiles of course.
Ebola is a terrible virus that many authorities are brushing off as "not so bad" which just isn't true.
RyU
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It's a hoax. There's no evidence that this has happened.
fluxlizard
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Since you are a nurse- just bringing to your awareness because you mentioned only primates and bats are carriers- dogs are also carriers. Something to think about if this becomes more widespread.
Dogs are nasty bless their hearts. They are always licking nasty stuff and even eating nasty stuff, and I'll get no more graphic other than to say, connect the dots and imagine how it could spread from human to dog to dog to human.
As far as salmonella- every thing carries that- dogs, cats, and especially fish and birds and flies- but only reptiles get the bad rap for it.
RyU
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I didn't know that, and definitely a good thing to know. Thanks for the info -=). Yea, dogs can be pretty nasty. I think probably because reptiles are not really as popular as other "more conventional" pets, and eat bugs, many people would find them gross.
Psychobunny
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I don't think chams would make a good carrier host for a virus like Ebola, since they are endothermic in nature.
But I suppose nearly any mammal would.
Meanwhile, back at the Obama whitehouse, with the November elections right around the corner, they are still not listening to the majority of the American people and officials in other Euro countries.
They still refuse to impose any flight bans from the 'hot zones'!!!
They have turned our best interests into a game of 'political correctness' !!!!
From the New York Times regarding travel bans:
"Dr. Gerald Weissmann, research professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center, said he favored a travel ban on “anyone coming from Ebola-infected areas,” as documented on their passports or visas."
“The objections are very humane and very lovely,” he said. “They consider quarantines medieval, and think there’s a touch of racism in this. It may be, but I wouldn’t care if Ebola came from Sweden.”
I agree with Dr Weissmann.
In October, the US government announced a new airport screening regime for incoming travelers from West Africa. Passengers arriving from Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia to five US airports will now be questioned about potential Ebola exposure and have their temperatures checked.
Exit screening has already been underway in West Africa since the summer, and famously failed in the case of Duncan. He flew to Dallas with Ebola incubating in his body, and did not disclose the fact that he had close contact with a dying Ebola patient days before his trip.
This failure shouldn't be a surprise. We know from past outbreaks that these techniques don't work. Entry and exit screening was used during the 2003 SARS pandemic. A Canadian study of the public-health response following the outbreak found that airport screening was a waste of money and human resources: it didn't detect a single case of the disease.
But I suppose nearly any mammal would.
Meanwhile, back at the Obama whitehouse, with the November elections right around the corner, they are still not listening to the majority of the American people and officials in other Euro countries.
They still refuse to impose any flight bans from the 'hot zones'!!!
They have turned our best interests into a game of 'political correctness' !!!!
From the New York Times regarding travel bans:
"Dr. Gerald Weissmann, research professor of medicine at NYU Langone Medical Center, said he favored a travel ban on “anyone coming from Ebola-infected areas,” as documented on their passports or visas."
“The objections are very humane and very lovely,” he said. “They consider quarantines medieval, and think there’s a touch of racism in this. It may be, but I wouldn’t care if Ebola came from Sweden.”
I agree with Dr Weissmann.
In October, the US government announced a new airport screening regime for incoming travelers from West Africa. Passengers arriving from Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia to five US airports will now be questioned about potential Ebola exposure and have their temperatures checked.
Exit screening has already been underway in West Africa since the summer, and famously failed in the case of Duncan. He flew to Dallas with Ebola incubating in his body, and did not disclose the fact that he had close contact with a dying Ebola patient days before his trip.
This failure shouldn't be a surprise. We know from past outbreaks that these techniques don't work. Entry and exit screening was used during the 2003 SARS pandemic. A Canadian study of the public-health response following the outbreak found that airport screening was a waste of money and human resources: it didn't detect a single case of the disease.
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Carlton
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I was watching some news yesterday and it sounds as if the evil "travel restriction" term is slowly filtering in...I heard some phrase about it not being off the table any longer.
It is an effective tool that should be part of any epidemic control plan, so might as well learn how to adapt systems and human behavior to it before everything goes to you-know-where.
It is an effective tool that should be part of any epidemic control plan, so might as well learn how to adapt systems and human behavior to it before everything goes to you-know-where.
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