Egg Dropper

[Link]

Link...that's what I thought you meant. Not sure what that is but I've seen eggs joined like that when I removed them from a dead female once many years ago. Do they lay eggs again after that happens?

mine have just get it give them extra time to rest plenty of vitamins water. Don't really know it is could be too much food when they're gravid or too many vitamins. I've never had it happen when I've had them for a while. It's only happened three times on ones I receive and they have their first crutches

 

[ChamLB]

I've had one that didn't bury her eggs when they weren't fertile. Don't know if this is like your girl?

 

[Acham]

Link...that's what I thought you meant. Not sure what that is but I've seen eggs joined like that when I removed them from a dead female once many years ago. Do they lay eggs again after that happens?

Have always used vermiculite in the laying bins, so, I'll change to washed playsand and give it a go. It might be easier on her and me.

Strand eggs - just looked over my records and 4% of the Panther eggs layed in the last 4 months are stranded. Never saw this with Veileds, only Panthers. One thing I noticed is that none were layed in the females' first clutch. Females are unrelated so it doesn't appear to be genetic. All of the females continued breeding and producing eggs and no complications were noted.

Process during egg formation - will discuss with my biologist and report back. Something biological that is functioning properly with the first clutch but is lacking thereafter. How technical is that! I'm an accountant, he is the biologist and I will talk with him.

 

[Andee]

I am really interested in the hopeful outcome of this thread. It would be interesting to see if we are able to figure out a possible reason to why the dropping and strand eggs are happening. It could help a lot of people in the long run.

 

[Acham]

I am really interested in the hopeful outcome of this thread. It would be interesting to see if we are able to figure out a possible reason to why the dropping and strand eggs are happening. It could help a lot of people in the long run.

That is what I hope. Chameleons, and humans, are biologically diverse and there will be a variety of reasons this occurs.

Anyone else out there with data on strand eggs?

 

[Acham]

I've had one that didn't bury her eggs when they weren't fertile. Don't know if this is like your girl?

Waiting to see if any are fertile. A few are starting to go downhill but there might be some fertile?

 

[kinyonga]

What ever happened with the female dropping the eggs?

 

[Acham]

She continued to drop 3-4 eggs for about 3 weeks with no complications after that. Never showed any interest in the laying bin no matter what was tried and none of the eggs dropped were fertile. After she appeared to be done I pampered her, postnatal calcium and Vit A with lots of water. She looked extremely healthy after about a month. I didn't breed her again but someone I knew wanted to adopt her. She is still doing well and has not produced any eggs since that time.
Curious, but at least she is healthy and enjoying the single life.

 

[kinyonga]

Good to hear that she's doing well.

 

[Acham]

Couldn't really find a reason why she was dropping the eggs and rejecting the laying bin. Since she recovered there was no reason to take her to a vet, she lived so no autopsy was perfomed. Something was wrong and it would help every breeder to know how to prevent this. A guess would be some hormonal imbalance which can cause birthing complications in all species.

 

[kinyonga]

All I can tell you is that in most cases of eggs being dropped by veileds and panthers instead of laid in a hole, the female will have even more difficulty the next time she needs to lay eggs and eventually most die eggbound.

 

[Angelwolf]

Maybe she knew they were infertile, or that there was actually something wrong with them, so she didn't go through the effort and stress of the laying bin. She basically aborted them, for lack of a better way of putting it. Survival instinct.