Feeders hiding in live plants

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How do you guys deal with live plants and feeders in enclosures? I have porthos, ficus, and umbrella plants. My crickets and dubias all seem to find really good hiding places under the pots, near the substrate, in cracks in between the plastic pot and substrate (especially dubias). I go into those places every now and then and find a lot of them hiding which means they are no longer gut-loaded and they will most likely only come out at night when the predator's sleeping.
 
They'll get eaten. Or they will die. I never worried too much. Just don't feed more when you know there are some loose in the cage
 
Yeah i cup feed the ones that dont jump... crix unfortunately just get loose. So i let him hunt like they do in wild.
 
I think cup feeding dubias is the only option for them. the can hide in the smallest cracks anywhere in the tank.
As far as crickets free-ranging, do you put foods in there to keep them gut-loaded? I am guessing a starving cricket hiding in the enclosure for 2-4 days doesn't provide any gut-loaded nutrients.
 
I think cup feeding dubias is the only option for them. the can hide in the smallest cracks anywhere in the tank.
As far as crickets free-ranging, do you put foods in there to keep them gut-loaded? I am guessing a starving cricket hiding in the enclosure for 2-4 days doesn't provide any gut-loaded nutrients.

Ive actually been planning on putting a small pile of gutload on bottom to deter the crix at night from botherin my cham.. if he misses them that is..
 
Ive actually been planning on putting a small pile of gutload on bottom to deter the crix at night from botherin my cham.. if he misses them that is..

That's a good idea. I was doing the same when I was feeding mine cricks (stopped cause they stink and he doesn't eat them). They cricks always went for the gutload over my cham.
 
has anybody actually witnessed a cricket attacking a chameleon? I was reading another thread where this is more of a possibility that turned into rumor that grew into a fact.
 
has anybody actually witnessed a cricket attacking a chameleon? I was reading another thread where this is more of a possibility that turned into rumor that grew into a fact.

Nah never witnessed a bite but heard its happened i think? But i just dont even want them walking on him or anything
 
I've never had it happen but my cages are heavily planted. If a cricket needed a snack they would have plenty of other choices. One variety of cricket, black crickets, are very aggressive and I have seen them hunt down other feeders.
 
We keep a layer of screen over our potted plant, makes it easier to fish out the dubias that have fallen down into it. They still find cracks. It's always fun changing out the drainage pan and trying to stop the three or four that have gotten underneath it, from escaping while we dump the mist water.
 
ive handled crickets many times and I've never felt even a small pinch. not sure how they are expected to do harm to our chameleons
 
Ive actually been planning on putting a small pile of gutload on bottom to deter the crix at night from botherin my cham.. if he misses them that is..
That will mold. I recommend not. Don't forget that the bug itself IS nutritional for the cham. It's just, by gutloading, we are providing "extra" nutrition for our cham. Crickets will munch on the live plants in the cage, which many chams also eat. More to the point, however, if your feeders are so numerous that they aren't being hunted and eaten within a day, you are surely overfeeding. A full grown cham should only be receiving approx. 6 full sized crickets or about 4 full sized dubia, every OTHER day. If your cham is hungry, he will hunt and eat. If he's not, you are over feeding.
 
That will mold. I recommend not. Don't forget that the bug itself IS nutritional for the cham. It's just, by gutloading, we are providing "extra" nutrition for our cham. Crickets will munch on the live plants in the cage, which many chams also eat. More to the point, however, if your feeders are so numerous that they aren't being hunted and eaten within a day, you are surely overfeeding. A full grown cham should only be receiving approx. 6 full sized crickets or about 4 full sized dubia, every OTHER day. If your cham is hungry, he will hunt and eat. If he's not, you are over feeding.

Oh true, didnt think bout the misting... and my chams only bout 8 months now i believe. But he takes his time hunting. And misses only 1 here an there. Its not an issue with my particular setup
 
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