Female Veiled. Getting a bit worried.

mychamtini112012

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Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Veiled chameleon, female, 6-8 months. She's been in my care for two months.
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? I've only handled her three times since I got her.
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders? I feed her eight crickets gut loaded with apples and carrots. I also feed two wax worms with all her feedings. I feed her every other day. I know this isn't the best yet, when I get paid I am getting more different feeders and a better gut load. Well looking recipes for my own.
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? Calcium without D3 every feeding, with D3 twice a month, mulitivitamins twice a month.
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking? Mist her three or four times a day for one-two minutes each time.
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? Brown with white urate.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. Trying to decide whether she is gravid or if there is something different wrong with her.


Cage Info:

Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Screen cage. 2x2x4
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? 75w basking light and 5.0 UVB linear bulb. On at 7:30 and off at 9:30
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps? Basking spot is always between 80-82 middle of the cage is around 75 and the bottom is at 65-70 I measure them with a temp gun
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity? 40-50, I maintain them with spraying. I measure them with a little humidity guage.
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? One large ficus tree.
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? Isn't near a fan, air vent, or high traffic area. Door is shut to the room everyday while I'm at school. Only time there is anyone in there is in the morning and after school. She's in the far corner though away from all activity. The cage is three feet off the ground.
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Springfield, Illinois


Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about. I've seen her at the bottom of her cage a lot recently. She doesn't just explore down there, she sits down there. I don't think she can be gravid, she doesn't have the mustard/yellow spots and is not any bigger. Its become more frequent lately as well. I've found her at the bottom twice today already. She's also been showing brighter almost neon green colors lately. What could be wrong.?


Pictures are helpful - Getting them in a bit.
 
I'm no expert but your setup and care seems pretty good. Look at her closely for any visible problems, any cuts or brusies, look thin or fat, mouth or eye infections, bent limbs. With a problem like this a trip to the vet would be my recommendation. Check fecal sample for parasites and a proper physical by an expert should identify a problem if there is one. Good luck.
 
Does she just sit down there? Does she scratch at the sides at all? My female used to hide when she was starting to cycle eggs. At her age she could be nearing sexual maturity and that might be the cause. Do you have a pic of her to post so we can see her? Edit - sorry, just seen that you intend to post pics. They might be helpful.
 
She just sits down there. I have a little plant down there and she just sits down there all chill like. Are her temps to hot or something.? She's eating fine, not bruises scrapes, mouth and eyes don't look like she has any infections. She shed about two weeks ago, still no mature colors. I'll have to post pics after school, last night it wouldn't work and now I'm on my phone....
 
she sounds like she needs to lay soon and is investigating possible laying sites..put a digging bin in for her, and see how she reacts to it..
 
she sounds like she needs to lay soon and is investigating possible laying sites..put a digging bin in for her, and see how she reacts to it..

Where can i get sand for it.?

And here are the pictures. (She let me take her out of her cage with a stick!! YAY!!)
 

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To me, no. I do think you should put a laying bin in there though. I think any female of laying age should have one available.

It's possible she's early in the process and just knows something is off so is being weird. It's possible she's "in the mood" and hanging around trying to meet someone...though, I'd sort of expect her to be prowling if that were the case.

Get the laying bin in there and see how things go.

You should be able to get play sand (get white) at Wal Mart or Home Depot. You might call ahead to make sure they have it in stock.
 
Okay. I'll look for it tomorrow. I'll be in town. The only time I've seen her down there she on top of the plant, sometimes just sitting other time shell walk around. And then she sees me and climbs up her branch real fast. She's usually dark when down there with the bright green colors showing.
 
Is reptile sand okay.? I haven't had much luck on play sand yet. Or reptile sand mixed with organic soil.? And should it ever be switched out.?
 
She doesn't look gravid to me plus she hasn't got her big girl colours yet nor has she got her more rounded lady cham shape yet either. She may be maturing though, so at least putting a laying bin in now will familiarise her with it before she needs to use it. My female had a bin in her cage from the age of 6 moths, yet she didn't lay a clutch until she was 20 months old. They do go dark when they go to the floor - it is colder down there and they go dark to absorb heat. Amy used to hide down behind a plant pot for hours on end when she was younger. She would get so cold down there, but she eventually came out and climbed up to the top again. I just left her there to do her thing.
 
Okay. Sounds good. Just wanted to make sure everything was okay. I can't find any sand right now though. I'm gonna search again tomorrow. Can she get her big girl colors and not have eggs.? Or is there a way to prevent eggs.? And thank you. :D
 
If you keep her temps at a permanent 80 - 82 degrees and feed her less often (Amy naturally began to eat less at 6 months) it is possible to lessen the size of a clutch or even have her not lay at all. Amy is 3 years old and has only laid that one clutch and that was 15 months ago now. I keep her at those temps and feed her a couple of locusts or whatever else I have every other day when she will eat!

I use a mix of eco earth and play sand as it is lighter for them to dig through. Sand alone can be very heavy. It is possible for a female to cycle eggs as young as 4 months, but very rare. Both my females have preferred a more 'earthy' medium to lay in as it must seem more natural for them. Some females even dig down into the roots of their plants and lay their clutch in the plant pot.
 
Well her temps are around 80-82 right now and I feed her medium sized crickets every other day with a few wax worms. I'm getting more feeders next week to change up her diet. Is that okay.? Or to much.?

Okay. On the search for sand and organic soil tomorrow.
 
The more varied diet you offer, the better it will be for her. Make sure to gutload the feeders well before feeding them off - nice leafy greens are good for calcium levels. Steer clear of broccoli and spinach though as they contain high levels of oxylate which can prevent calcium absorption.
 
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