Fl Chams

[Lindseyblake77]

Hey guys...New to this forum. Had a question about FL Chams, I offered to come to their location and pick up a chameleon because I really didn't want to have to have the cutie shipped, they flat out said no...local pick up is not an option.
Why would this be? If local pick up was an option from purchaser I do not understand why the stress of shipping is a better option? I live just across the coast and would have no problem driving the 2 hours. Just made me a little suspicious ....... thoughts?

 

[Tige21v]

I'm not sure, but I do not recall coming across anything disparaging about them. It may be something as simple as if they are breeding out of their home, they don't want strangers scoping them out. Number one reason I have never posted anything for sale on CL.
It could be they are making something on shipping costs. You could ask. If they are, offer to pay the extra.
Maybe they would be willing to meet?

 

[Lindseyblake77]

Thank you for your response. I will totally pay the shipping costs and meet them, I just do not feel the need for any stress on the babe if it can be avoided.

 

[Tige21v]

I get it.
And like I said, I don't know their reasons. Long ago I accepted the the old saying " I won't tell how you to run your business, and don't you try to tell me how to run mine". if you're not comfortable with their practices, you can always go elsewhere.
That said, as soon as they put the dudes in a box and close it, they go to sleep. it's kind of like riding out a crazy storm overnight for them. they're quite hardy and take shipping well. every time one shows up and I open the box, they are fine. climb right out and are ready to get on with their new lives.

 

[Fchamel]

There are many sponsors and forum members that have panthers for sale.

 

[AmandaS]

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/flchams.177768/

https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/thinking-about-a-veiled.176579/#post-1582703

 

[Kamikaze Chameleon]

My buddy got one from them and he is SUPER happy and healthy, shipped perfectly fine no issues! I totally understand though, your so close I would probably want to do the same thing

 

[Fchamel]

Based on reading the above threads that @AmandaS posted.... there are many people that would not buy from them again, and yet some people with no issues at all. I would go with a breeder that you can absolutely trust. @Randers88 has chams for sales @salty dog, and kammerflage creations is another breeder.

 

[ERKleRose]

Based on reading the above threads that @AmandaS posted.... there are many people that would not buy from them again, and yet some people with no issues at all. I would go with a breeder that you can absolutely trust. @Randers88 has chams for sales @salty dog, and kammerflage creations is another breeder.

Don’t forget @Dridrop12 with iPardalis! I personally wouldn’t buy from FL Chams. I’d go with a breeder who puts health as their first concern, not color or profit. Someone who only produces healthy, happy chams with clear lines (no inbreeding/line-breeding) and good genetics, and is there to support you whenever it’s needed!

 

[JuniorC]

I purchased my veiled chameleon from them and had no issues but other members around the same time had issues with theirs. I got my panther from a breeder I was able to find close to me and he let me check out the set ups and rest of the chameleons. So definitely go with a breeder closer to you(its worth the drive if its not close) or definitely buy from a breeder on here. They are all well raised

 

[PoseidonTheChameleon]

Poseidon was shipped from FL chams and he was perfectly fine, if you cant pick him up then I wouldnt worry about him being stressed on the ride.

 

[JuniorC]

If for whatever reason you end up going with them be sure you get a fecal done asap to rule out any parasites.

 

[ERKleRose]

You should always be able to see how the breeder raises/houses/cares for their chameleons, even if it’s over Facetime or Google Duo or something.

 

[ERKleRose]

If for whatever reason you end up going with them be sure you get a fecal done asap to rule out any parasites.

Yes! OP, make sure you have an experienced chameleon vet lined up, even if you don’t go with FL Chams!

 

[Kamikaze Chameleon]

Edit: I was mistaken, my dude got his @framschams NOT FLchams so from the looks of the previous posts/threads I wouldn't reccomend buying from them. My guy came from LLL and I know they are reputable!

 

[Randers88]

FL Chams won't let you visit because... as I understand it... They are more of a broker. They sell third party from other breeders. I believe I saw a thread on here that said that some shipments were coming from various states.

 

[coastal_chameleon]

some places cant do local pick ups anymore due to covid regulations , i live 30 min away from rainbow meal worms and they no longer do local pick ups so now i have to pay 17 dollars shipping for 6 dollars worth of crickets -_-

 

[janjan20]

FL Chams won't let you visit because... as I understand it... They are more of a broker. They sell third party from other breeders. I believe I saw a thread on here that said that some shipments were coming from various states.

This is true, I live in FL and mine was shipped from PA.

 

[jamest0o0]

Someone beat me to it, they ship from different parts of the country.

TBH I have seen a concerning amount of coccidia infected animals come from them, and their customer service is said to be atrocious.

 

[Beman]

^^^^^^ yep this what @jamest0o0 said...

And if you bought from them and did not get a fecal done then recommending them is something you might rethink. We have seen many sick ones come from them.