Genetics and Prices on a good ambilobe and

Franquixote

Franquixote

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Little bit of sticker shock, the line I have been hoping for is $385 shipped. Is this the average? I went to a big reptile show last weekend and there was not 1 ambilobe to be found, nosy be were going for about $175 but I definitely want the colors in the ambilobe. Also, how truw do they usually breed color wise? I see pcitures of the sire but not the feamle on most breeders sites, the worst would be to get a baby for like $400 and it turns out to be a dud color-wise. I know from breeding different fish that there is a decent amount of predictability in some species and others it is a complete gamble. For example some of the cichlids I've bred I could be about 90% sure I would get exactly what I was looking for compared to Endler's and fancy guppies that I could not predict how good the offspring would be within even a 10% margin of error- basically a complete mystery.
Wondering how ambilobes compare.
 
Franquixote said:
Little bit of sticker shock, the line I have been hoping for is $385 shipped. Is this the average? I went to a big reptile show last weekend and there was not 1 ambilobe to be found, nosy be were going for about $175 but I definitely want the colors in the ambilobe. Also, how truw do they usually breed color wise? I see pcitures of the sire but not the feamle on most breeders sites, the worst would be to get a baby for like $400 and it turns out to be a dud color-wise. I know from breeding different fish that there is a decent amount of predictability in some species and others it is a complete gamble. For example some of the cichlids I've bred I could be about 90% sure I would get exactly what I was looking for compared to Endler's and fancy guppies that I could not predict how good the offspring would be within even a 10% margin of error- basically a complete mystery.
Wondering how ambilobes compare.
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If color is important, buy a hold back that the breeder decided not to keep.
 
The sambava and anbaja don't usually have the yellows in addition to the other colors, right? From what I have seen the ambilobes with bright green or yellow backgrounds have all the colors of the rainbow except maybe purple-am I wrong on that?
 
jamest0o0 said:
You'll more than likely get a similar looking chameleon as the sire/dam's sire. You won't just end up with one that's brown lol. Also if you want mind blowing color go for a high end Ambanja. :)
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jamest0o0 - Do you have a link regarding genetic studies? Would just like to have a better understanding.
 
Scott- thanks for the heads-up on Cham Paradise- it opens up my options a bitand they are $100 less than what I was looking at.
I saw on your profile that you are waiting until fall to get one too- I'm in the same boat. I am so glad I waited. The enclosure I got was custom and I realized that it had SO many small gaps for insects to escape so been siliconing last few days. And then there's the price of the lighting I was surprised about. But at least we are doing it right.
Can I ask what stage you are at? Have you started any feeder colonies?
 
I was actually shopping around for feeders yesterday. I am planning on dubia, orange heads, crickets, and maybe something else. Have you started any feeder colonies yet?
 
If you want colourful, you cannot go wrong with Ambilobe. I've never seen a 'dud' - the only ones that look washed out are ill or haven't been cared for properly (UVB lighting mostly). If you are getting a young one and do your research, you will not be disappointed.

My profile pic is a red bar Ambilobe who fired up yellow/orange/red. I had another breeding male who had even more yellow than him when he fired up. Both of those breeders produced red barred, blue barred and mixed barring in the offspring. So you can't guarantee exactly what you will get but you can be sure it will be colourful!

Good on you for doing your due diligence before bringing one home.
 
Thanks for recognizing how patient I am being. It's soooo tempting to just go for it and figure it out as you go along but so far there have been at least a half dozen things that would have been a disaster if I didn't take it slowly. Number one being that for all you custom enclosure newbs, really REALLY check out all the nooks and crannies that need silicon so feeders don't escape.
 
Just add another local to your list. The Nosy Valiha have the color range you are looking for but as they are very rare you will need to save your money. Maybe your second or third chameleon. They are like potato chips.. ya can't have just one.(y)
 

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I actually purchased a cham from the Cowboy line from Chameleon Paradise. My guy has been doing awesome, and Bruce was alright to deal with. My guy (in my profile pic) is one of Cowboys babies. when he fires up, he gets bright yellow with orange bars.
 
I got a new male veiled chameleon about two weeks ago and he is doing well. I just wanted to know if there is anything I could do to improve his life.
Basking temp is 90.
Automatic mister mists him every three hours.
Has a dripper and has been drinking.
Eats crickets and mealworms and will be adding silkworms and supers once they finish shipping.
Has a small screen cage that we will upgrade to bigger sizes as he gets bigger.
Has a ficus tree in his enclosure and some artificial vines and sticks.
How colors have been great and has had no sign of stress.
 
maclainpdx said:
I got a new male veiled chameleon about two weeks ago and he is doing well. I just wanted to know if there is anything I could do to improve his life.
Basking temp is 90.
Automatic mister mists him every three hours.
Has a dripper and has been drinking.
Eats crickets and mealworms and will be adding silkworms and supers once they finish shipping.
Has a small screen cage that we will upgrade to bigger sizes as he gets bigger.
Has a ficus tree in his enclosure and some artificial vines and sticks.
How colors have been great and has had no sign of stress.
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I would always start a new thread for this kind of question, but you may not be able to since you're new.

Everything sounds good, I would ensure that you're misting for 1.5-3 minutes per session, and letting the cage dry out between each session.

If your guy is under a year old, I would lower the basking temp to around 85 or so, 90 may be a bit too high for a young one.

Make sure he has a lot of places to hide from you in his cage. It sounds like you're on the right path.

Good luck! It sounds like you're on the right path.
 
Jordan.gibbs said:
I would always start a new thread for this kind of question, but you may not be able to since you're new.

Everything sounds good, I would ensure that you're misting for 1.5-3 minutes per session, and letting the cage dry out between each session.

If your guy is under a year old, I would lower the basking temp to around 85 or so, 90 may be a bit too high for a young one.

Make sure he has a lot of places to hide from you in his cage. It sounds like you're on the right path.

Good luck! It sounds like you're on the right path.
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Yeah it wouldn't let me start a new thread and I wanted some answers so thanks for responding. He has got plenty of places to hide and I haven't handled him at all. I will lower the basking temperatures a few degrees, that makes sense because he only seems to bask for a short amount of time. Thank you!
 
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