Gravid Melleri Conclusion.

jpowell86

Chameleon Enthusiast
So the gravid female that I got last Friday ended up not making it.

I went down to San Antonio last week to get some melleri to add to my breeding project. While there, I saw a gravid female that just broke my heart. Janet and I kept discussing as to whether I should take her or not.....needless to say I couldn't walk out without her. I have been doctoring her poor eyes over the last 4 days and yesterday she was finally able to hold them open on her own. She immediately started exploring her enclosure and today she was in her laying bin. I left her there an hour and snuck back in on her to find that she was in fact digging. I went in to check on her about an hour and a half ago and she was packing down the dirt and it was completely obvious that she had laid her eggs. I was thrilled. I gently took her out of the laying bin and set her back on some of the perches.

She seemed to be doing okay and was actually drinking, which made me so happy. So, I figured I would leave her be for a while and let her hydrate and begin the recouping that she so desperately needed. I went back in about 30 minutes ago and she was not looking good at all. I decided that the chances of her living were slim anyhow, so I made a call to the vet to meet me at his office.

Unfortunately, on the way there she ended up passing. It killed me that she did not make it and it just fuels my fire to get bloodlines started. I can't stand the import process and I especially can't stand the impact it has on melleris.

The poor girl put everything she had in to laying those eggs and making sure they were properly covered. I hate that she is gone but I am relieved that she didn't end up with someone that wouldn't have given her and her eggs a chance. More than likely, she would have died in the same cage that I picked her out of.

As you can see, she ended up having 43 eggs.

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She packed the dirt down? That just breaks my heart. And yours, too. If you hadn't taken her she AND her eggs would have been lost in the cage she came out of.
Poor little thing! At least she ended up in the hands of someone who knew what she would need and gave her babies the best chance for a future. With a clutch like that hopefully most of them will end up in caring hands here. Rest in peace sweet momma.
 
So the gravid female that I got last Friday ended up not making it.

I went down to San Antonio last week to get some melleri to add to my breeding project. While there, I saw a gravid female that just broke my heart. Janet and I kept discussing as to whether I should take her or not.....needless to say I couldn't walk out without her. I have been doctoring her poor eyes over the last 4 days and yesterday she was finally able to hold them open on her own. She immediately started exploring her enclosure and today she was in her laying bin. I left her there an hour and snuck back in on her to find that she was in fact digging. I went in to check on her about an hour and a half ago and she was packing down the dirt and it was completely obvious that she had laid her eggs. I was thrilled. I gently took her out of the laying bin and set her back on some of the perches.

She seemed to be doing okay and was actually drinking, which made me so happy. So, I figured I would leave her be for a while and let her hydrate and begin the recouping that she so desperately needed. I went back in about 30 minutes ago and she was not looking good at all. I decided that the chances of her living were slim anyhow, so I made a call to the vet to meet me at his office.

Unfortunately, on the way there she ended up passing. It killed me that she did not make it and it just fuels my fire to get bloodlines started. I can't stand the import process and I especially can't stand the impact it has on melleris.

The poor girl put everything she had in to laying those eggs and making sure they were properly covered. I hate that she is gone but I am relieved that she didn't end up with someone that wouldn't have given her and her eggs a chance. More than likely, she would have died in the same cage that I picked her out of.

As you can see, she ended up having 43 eggs.

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Dam that sucks:(
 
I knew when I read the thread heading. Heartbreaking. As bad off as she was, she still took care of her babies. Heartbreaking probably isn't even a strong enough word. So sorry, Joel.

Deb
 
Sorry for your lost..I would have done the same thing. It sad to see a animal in captivity that should not be there it was fate that brought you guys together now it up to you to keep her bloodline alive.. best wishes...(y)
 
I hope everything turns out for the best for her eggs. You are the person if any who can give them the best chance. I have been following both threads and this is such a bittersweet ending. I am so amazed she had the strength to tamp down the soil even though she was dying and exhausted. Poor baby, at least now she can rest in peace.
 
Poor girl... I'm so glad she made it to someone that will give her eggs as much care as she did.

I really hope your breeding project takes off. I know for every animal that even makes it here, countless others die en route. You're doing a great thing.
 
Wow I'm so sorry Joel. I wish you all the luck with her clutch of eggs, and wish things could have ended deferent as far as she is concerned.
 
Thanks to everyone for all the kindness.

I really appreciate all the support behind my efforts to start bloodlines. The only good news out of all of this is that the timeline of her gestation to laying is on par for melleri. The eggs are viable from my experience, so hopefully when June rolls around, there will be some native born melleri.

Someone mentioned above exactly how I feel.....the fact that she put all of her last remaining strength into making sure that nest site was as perfect as possible is a true testament to the efforts they put into each clutch. They are amazing animals that deserve all of our help.
 
I'm sorry for your lost. I've wanted to work with Melleri for a long time, but I do not really want to fuel their imports. I've worked with imports before right out of the box (past job), and its sad when they look good one day, and the next they're gone.

Good luck with the eggs. I know you'll do all you can for them.

Chase
 
Thanks Chase.

Dealing with them at a past job is what pushed me to start working with them personally. The import process is hard period, but it seems to take a different toll on this species.
 
What a shame she didn't make it. It's amazing that she got through the egglaying though and even tamped it down. I bet she struggled to survive long enough to lay the eggs.
 
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