habba mist

[stephen]

most of us have heard varying opinions on zoomeds habba mist. I am interested in hearing any comments of success or failure in using them in new born housing.
I would like to use a 10 gallon glass tank with zillas cage extension on top with the aforementioned mister.. Any comments? Thank you
Stephen

 

[EMH]

I don't know what the cost is on them where you are but the misting systems you can get from others would be a better choice IMO. Almost the same cost on them here
The Habba Mist is Very Very loud and the spray pattern sucks IMO
It is nice in the choices that you get for time they run but a good timer can do the same for the others

Good luck in your choice


Eric

 

[stephen]

I am putting a system together from mist king in the next few weeks but i am not sure if the nozzles they carry will be appropriate for a micro environment.
I was thinking of the habba for the nursery!!!
stephen

 

[fritz]

i am using a habba mist on the weekends. my chameleon is on my desk at work so i can hand mist him throughout the day. i really don't care for the habba mist. it doesn't have enough power to create mist. it pumps it up the tube where it kinda fizzles and squirts from the nozzle. i would replace it if i relied on it full time, but it does deliver water to the cage to my satisfaction just for the weekend. also, i can't say i really have room on my desk for a full misting system.

 

[stephen]

Thanx fritz. I just need something to mist the babies a few times in the afternoon, This might be the route to take. Zoo med is a great company who usually "get it" when it comes to our herp needs,wonder what happened in this case.
Stephen

 

[LaserGecko]

The HabbaMist does not produce what anyone who's ever seen a real mister would consider "mist". That's why I call it a HabbaSpit, that's about all it does. It spits water. That cheap $5 pump motor cannot produce the pressure required for real nozzles. It's incredibly loud, too.

I would absolutely love to see a droplet size for the HabbaMist. Real misting nozzles produce a droplet size of around 50-60 microns.

 

[Marty]

squeeze a garden hose, you'll probably get a better mist that way I'm yet to see a good HM review

 

[Electric]

slightly off topic question here, stephen, did you buy your mist king stuff at the expo near toronto? if so, hope you don't mind me asking what kind of price you paid and for what kit etc. I just received an email with the final vendor list for the kemptville show near ottawa and noticed mist king was in there, so I'm figuring it would be a good chance to save on the shipping and customs fees I'd pay if I were to order it from the states. Assuming the dollars are still somewhat at par I'm guessing their prices are roughly equivalent to the prices on their website?


and Marty, just curious, not sure what state you're from but what brings you up to a little show like the ottawa one? I can see the montreal and toronto ones being profitable because of the larger volume, but the kemptville one seems like it's going to be fairly small judging by the short vendor list

 

[SoCaliSon]

My buddy gave me a Habba mist for free... and I am glad I didn't pay anything for it. The first time that thing started It was so loud I thought it was broken... and It freaked out my cham... That thing would start and she would immediately start looking for somewhere to hide from the giant vibrating piece of machinery hanging on her cage. Yeah I would like to know what went wrong in the design of this thing and why it is taking them so long to fix it. Seems like there should be an option available in the market for smaller setups that is actually a product worth buying. I believe we should be able to buy an automatic misting system, along the lines of the Habba Mist... But acctually efficient, for around $50... So far, for the smaller enclosures I havent found anything that is better than my spray bottle.

 

[LaserGecko]

It's just not possible to produce a quiet, strong water pump for $10. I doubt they're even paying that much for the pump in that thing, but it takes a lot of force to push water through an opening that small.

Even if it was a scaled down version of the absolute cheapest form of pump available (those piston pumps), it would still be loud. They're not nearly as complicated as a diaphragm pump since they're basically a coil that's running off of diode blocked 120VAC.

If you want quiet, you have to pay for more complicated pumps.

 

[JoshCrane1]

pushing water vertically is hard as well, i know(tried to make waterfall with aquarium pump, only pumped water up like 2ft.). i guess thats where high pressure comes into play.

JASON,
how high can your nozzles be above your pump at normal pressure?

 

[Dave Weldon]

Howdy,

(Just jotting down a couple of thoughts...)

With chameleons, our goals for misting are usually at least twofold; supplying water for drinking and water to increase humidity. Fortunately the top three mist systems (www.herpmist.com, www.mistking.com and www.pro-products.com) do a pretty good job towards reaching these goals. There is, however, a little bit of a balancing act to meeting these goals. Too coarse of a mist and it will be inefficient at increasing humidity along with wasting water resulting in excessive run-off. Too fine of a mist may tend annoy a chameleon's eyes chasing it out of the mist zone. Fortunately adjustable pump pressure and nozzle selection allows for some tuning of the droplet size while still delivering the desired coverage pattern and water volume. Adjusting the tiny hex screw on the front of those pumps about 3 turns out (seems to be the lowest setting possible) lowers the pressure from about 75psi to about 40psi which not only uses less water but it helps create a larger droplet size. These larger droplets tend to hold more of any added heat too. There is still enough of a "mist" component to the mist that humidity is effectively increased also. Some mist system suppliers offer a selection of nozzles. I prefer the color-coded nozzles. (Another side benefit to a larger nozzle hole is that they don't clog with mineral deposits as easily as the finer tips do .) Here are examples of the color-coded nozzles: http://www.cloudtops.com/mistingnozzles.htm, http://www.herpmist.com/nozzles.shtml#emitters I use the cream colored ones and they seem to have a reasonable pattern angle and droplet size while not consuming too much water per session. With my pressure set to ~40psi, I use about a quart of water for each nozzle (one nozzle per 2x2x4 enclosure) during a 15-20 mist session. I mist at 8am and 2pm. If your mist system supplier doesn't already stock a selection, ask them for their help in getting the one(s) you want. Some red nozzle tips sold come with an added internal anti-drip feature listed as a selling point. It is not necessary for our application (great for frog enclosures) and may actually stop the ability to mist at pressures lower than 30-40psi. Happy misting !