Help, whats wrong with her?

tbes25

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Please help me with my problem, i am really worried about the female. I am a new chameleon owner.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson, female and a male, both a few months old. Been in new cage for 2 days
Handling - Never
Feeding - Right now they are getting crickets dusted with calcium and vd3, they are getting about 10-15 small ones each.We give them some in the morning at like 9a and then the rest in the afternoon. I have the insects in a container with fruit and dusting them with calcium.
Supplements - Flukes Calcium with Vd3 and we are gonna start using herptevite. I use the Calcium w/ vd3 about 3 times a week and the herptevite once.
Watering - I spray inside the cage maybe 4-5 times a day, until the whole inside is nice and wet and i have humidity monitor. There is also a small waterfall. Yes i see the, drinking, well i did see him for sure. The first day they both were now she is blah.
Fecal Description - I havent checked their poop and no never tested for perasites.
History - I bought them from a pet store and they were captive bred.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Cage is screen all around. 26L x 12Wx 36H
Lighting - ITs a zoo med 75W heat lamp and 15w compact uvb also zoo med. Light go on at dawn (sun coming up) and are of when sun goes down.
Temperature - I have a thermometer in the cage and one to tell the temp in the room. The basking spot is about 85F and the temp in the area is usually around 75F the floor since its shaded is about 70F. The temp over night is 65-70F.
Humidity - I have a humidity monitor and it stays around 45-80%. I mist ofter but plan on getting a drip system and a automatic mister.
Plants - No, as of right now they are fake plants.
Placement - The cage in in my 18Month old sons bed room, we are almost never in there except to get clothes and for him to sleep. No one messes with them except me and my boyfriend. The cage is on my sons sold changing table, so its pretty high.
Location - We are located in Michigan USA.
Current Problem - I am a new chameleon owner, and even though we did a lot of research we still find our selves looking for more. So many websites we looked at contradict one a another that it left us more confused. We bought the two Jacksons and thought that we might breed them since so many pet stores around here are looking for chameleons. Originally we were only looking for a male but we couldnt find any chameleons any where so thats how we got the idea. Anyways, they were both fine the first day, saw them eating and drinking especially him, but since yesterday she has been weird. She doesnt really move. I sprayed in there and she didnt even move she looks like she is sleeping all the time and is like black in color. I am really worried and need help.
 
I haven't really looked at your post in great detail, but a few things popped out right away:

1. Both chams should be in separate cages.
2. Are your temps in C or F? (you have C listed)
3. You should only be using calcium w/d3 in limited quantities (and the same for Herpvite) but use calcium w/o d3 almost all the time. You can do a search for supplementation on the forum as there are many threads about this subject.
4. Are you SURE they are CB or are the farm-raised and imported? It is, after all, a pet store.....
 
Really you just need to separate them and take some of chams1 advice. Also you said you give them circkets in the morning and afternoon, give all in the morning they need the light and heat to digest their food if not they could get impaction which isnt fun.
 
Get rid of the compact UVB as soon as possibile. They are known to cause blindness.

Congratulations & welcome.:)
 
Please help me with my problem, i am really worried about the female. I am a new chameleon owner.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson, female and a male, both a few months old. Been in new cage for 2 days
Handling - Never
Feeding - Right now they are getting crickets dusted with calcium and vd3, they are getting about 10-15 small ones each.We give them some in the morning at like 9a and then the rest in the afternoon. I have the insects in a container with fruit and dusting them with calcium.
Supplements - Flukes Calcium with Vd3 and we are gonna start using herptevite. I use the Calcium w/ vd3 about 3 times a week and the herptevite once.
Watering - I spray inside the cage maybe 4-5 times a day, until the whole inside is nice and wet and i have humidity monitor. There is also a small waterfall. Yes i see the, drinking, well i did see him for sure. The first day they both were now she is blah.
Fecal Description - I havent checked their poop and no never tested for perasites.
History - I bought them from a pet store and they were captive bred.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Cage is screen all around. 26L x 12Wx 36H
Lighting - ITs a zoo med 75W heat lamp and 15w compact uvb also zoo med. Light go on at dawn (sun coming up) and are of when sun goes down.
Temperature - I have a thermometer in the cage and one to tell the temp in the room. The basking spot is about 85C and the temp in the area is usually around 75C the floor since its shaded is about 70C. The temp over night is 65-70C.
Humidity - I have a humidity monitor and it stays around 45-80%. I mist ofter but plan on getting a drip system and a automatic mister.
Plants - No, as of right now they are fake plants.
Placement - The cage in in my 18Month old sons bed room, we are almost never in there except to get clothes and for him to sleep. No one messes with them except me and my boyfriend. The cage is on my sons sold changing table, so its pretty high.
Location - We are located in Michigan USA.
Current Problem - I am a new chameleon owner, and even though we did a lot of research we still find our selves looking for more. So many websites we looked at contradict one a another that it left us more confused. We bought the two Jacksons and thought that we might breed them since so many pet stores around here are looking for chameleons. Originally we were only looking for a male but we couldnt find any chameleons any where so thats how we got the idea. Anyways, they were both fine the first day, saw them eating and drinking especially him, but since yesterday she has been weird. She doesnt really move. I sprayed in there and she didnt even move she looks like she is sleeping all the time and is like black in color. I am really worried and need help.
You do need two cages. And for the uvb bulb if it is a Zoomed Reptisun and it is not coiled it's fine. ASAP ON THE CAGES!
 
sorry it was F and i am gonna put her in her own cage. I will also take the rest of the advide you and the others gave. Thanks
 
Less D3 as well. Maybe only once or twice a month. Give them phosphorus free Calcium W/O D3 at least 5 times a week.

Besides the second cage, make sure they can't see each other. You can put something in between their cages.

Do you have a dripper or auto-mister running?
 
Lose the compact UVB light too. It is likely to blind them.

Replace with a ReptiSUN, not ReptiGLO, 5.0 linear bulb. The ReptiGLO doesn't put out as much UVB as the ReptiSUN.

If your cages will be right next to each other, you could get 1 really long UVB bulb if it covers both cages. a 5.0 bulb will need to be sitting directly on top of the cage. a 10.0 needs to be 4-6 inches above the cage, not an easy thing to do unless you want to hang it.

Let us know if you have any other questions. And post some pics!:D
 
Have you taken her to a vet?
Chameleons do not "sleep" during the day - eyes closed indicates a problem.

Montaine species (Jackson's included) are sensitive to over supplementation. I would not use Calcium with D3 every day. Most of their nutrition should come from prey that is itself properly fed (gutloaded).

They should be housed separately. Dark colours are generally suggestive of stress or improper temperatures. Jacksons like somewhat more humidity and somewhat cooler temps than a veiled. Basking temps should be 80-85F, cooler at night around 40F.
Live plants are a good idea, they help with humidity- consider getting them instead of the fake ones.

Waterfalls are a bad idea. Use a dripper and frequently misting.
 
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Welcome to the world of the Jackson's chameleons! I have an adult male Jackson's and I absolutely love him. Even when chams are young a male cham can still intimidate the female. He might be acting territorial even if you don't notice and preventing her from getting under the heat lamp or to the dripper etc.

So she might not be warm enough, or hydrated enough or just plain stressed. From having a Jackson's myself, the one thing I've learned is Green is happy and any other color isn't. Really dark means really really unhappy and stressed. So you are definitely doing the right thing by getting two separate cages and make sure you put up a divider between them so they can't even see each other. Good luck with your new babies :):):)
Natalie
 
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