Help! yellow lumps

just think that it can be abit threatening when you have somthing different than everyone else.

I hear you. I've felt it myself once or twice. But I remind myself now that people mean well.

Hopefully the cham can transition to getting his water from a dripper. but in the meantime, better he drink from a bowl than not at all.

I think I see the vents now - white plastic, right?
 
read the rest of the comments, he healed within two days and a vet came out. and i have fixed things to prevent it happening again

Sorry about that my computer is "malfunctioning" and it only showed the first page. It's doing that on other threads as well.
 
I hear you. I've felt it myself once or twice. But I remind myself now that people mean well.

Hopefully the cham can transition to getting his water from a dripper. but in the meantime, better he drink from a bowl than not at all.

I think I see the vents now - white plastic, right?

yeah theres two and the top and two at the bottom, i dont think they are the best but i havent had any poor ventilation problems
 
i know everyone means well and its hard not to get feel strongly about chameleon care when you love the animal so much. just always want whats best for them
 
nooo i dont mean that saying about the enclosures is bad advice, or that any advice is bad at all, all the advice has been helpful and im very thankful for it. just think that it can be abit threatening when you have somthing different than everyone else.

I am going to take the lights out, i was planning to once he had gotten bigger and by him getting hurt was good sign that i left it too long.

right now i do have to have a water dish but its not dirty at all and is cleaned very very regulary throughout the day. I dont want him drinking out of it cause i am worried he may get an infection but from my experiance from taking it away he wouldnt drink from anything else. dont want him to dehyrate

In my personal opinion if he drinks from the water dish and you keep it clean, keep doing it. Although a water dish is "risky", it also puts a lot of stress on chams when things change. Hydration is more important than the risk of bacteria when it hasn't even happened yet. Since he already burned himself once, just put the lights outside of the cage. If your cham has learned to drink from a water dish, he might not drink from droplet leaves. So just do whatever the chameleon finds comfortable, but be really sure to keep the water dish as clean as possible.

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I remember hearing that chameleons see a body of water and think, "oh hey, its a river". Being clean creatures by nature, they like to expel over the "river" to wash away their feces and urate.

Except it's not a river, it just cycles that back into itself.

Anyways, I think a transition to a dripper would be easy seeing how this is how they naturally drink.


Also, people tend to ask for advice then instead of accepting the advice, or asking more about it, they get defensive. You definitely have an open mind, but also remember you were the one who asked for help, and people gave it, albeit slightly abrasively.
 
Ventilation is easier in a screen cage. Cleanliness is easier without a water bowl. Glass causes reflections. etc.

There are so many generalizations when it comes to animal care that people mistake them for rules. It is entirely possible to maintain proper conditions in a glass tank wiht a water bowl - it's just not as fool-proof. People mean well, but often they get caught up in the "right or wrong" way of thinking, and assume that if you are doing it right, then "they" must be doing it wrong.

Friend of mine used to keep all his animals in translucent plastic tubs. Had some very long lived animals, and even bred C.minor in such a manner (seriously, 20-30 gallon plastic storage tubs with screen on the front and end.). The key is making sure the animals' needs are met. In the case of these, the not-so-clear plastic was the key.Clear plastic would not be recognized, and the animal would try to escape. Opaque plastic would make the animal feel enclosed.

Translucent plast lets light in, but makes the animal feel safe - not exposed. Chameleons that prefer a more densely planted area, which hide a lot, thrive in such containers.

It worked, and it worked well. He was having success keeping and breeding chameleons a long time before most people. He had some of the earliest longevity records I can remember. His breeder female veileds were living to 5-6 years when most were living half that. His WC male lived to 7 or 8 years.

BUT, you think keepers in the UK get hell when they post pics of their setups! It got so bad, he stopped posting in online forums.

As for this setup, I'd say it does not look like there's enough ventilation. Maybe put a small fan on a timer. The lamp is a problem, I'd shield it or make sure the chameleon can't reach it. For water, I'd keep it, but have a drip system drip into the bowl. If you use a dripper, the water has to go somewhere. He'll probably still go to it to drink, but at least he'll have the dripping to wash his eyes out if he needs it.

Whn you do not have a screen bottom, or large plants, a water bowl is the best way to kep the cage clean and dry. Drip into it instead of all over the place.
 
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