hornworm size

Gwendalyn.brock

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I was wondering how big my chameleon should be before I give her full size horn worms. She is only about 5 months and I was thinking she was too little for a worm that big. Any suggestions since they grow too fast even though they are breeding.
 
Not sure my cham is about 7 inches nose to tip of his tail and he managed to swipe a hornworm from the tray the other day about about 2 1/2 in or so long with no obvious problems
 
Not sure my cham is about 7 inches nose to tip of his tail and he managed to swipe a hornworm from the tray the other day about about 2 1/2 in or so long with no obvious problems
Wow, that seems like a big worm for your cham. My cham is about 9 inches from her nose to the tip of her tail but I worry since I can't be with her all day that giving her larger worms would hurt her.
 
I didn't want him having the whole worm but he was quick and I wasn't going to pull it of his mouth he's too onery
 
I didn't want him having the whole worm but he was quick and I wasn't going to pull it of his mouth he's too onery
If it didn't hurt him, he's definitely fine. My veiled would probably try to bite me if I tried taking anything back. Cause she likes to try and attack my hands when I put food in her cage after she wakes up.
 
Horn worms are so 'squishy' that I don't think the conventional rule of thumb (i.e. no food items wider than the distance between eyes) applies. I don't necessarily have any guidance for you, but I can tell you this much... As soon as a Chameleon bites down on the body of a Horn worm, this 'squishiness' gets compressed quite a bit.

Just FYI, here's a picture of my Chameleon eating a nearly full-size Horn worm (i.e. ~2.5" in length) at 4-5 months of age.


At some point my Chameleon would simply refuse to eat the larger Horn worms... Almost like he knew when they were too big for him to eat. Perhaps someone with more expertise and/or requisite experience will chime in with some guidance for us newbies. (y)
 
Horn worms are so 'squishy' that I don't think the conventional rule of thumb (i.e. no food items wider than the distance between eyes) applies. I don't necessarily have any guidance for you, but I can tell you this much... As soon as a Chameleon bites down on the body of a Horn worm, this 'squishiness' gets compressed quite a bit.

Just FYI, here's a picture of my Chameleon eating a nearly full-size Horn worm (i.e. ~2.5" in length) at 4-5 months of age.


At some point my Chameleon would simply refuse to eat the larger Horn worms... Almost like he knew when they were too big for him to eat. Perhaps someone with more expertise and/or requisite experience will chime in with some guidance for us newbies. (y)
My little girl loves hornworma but I was always nervous to give her more than the medium sized ones but the eggs don't hatch as fast as they grow. I don't doubt that she would eat the bigger ones, I just want to make sure she won't get it stuck or anything. You're cham is about the same age as my veiled and such a beautiful panther by the way. I will wait for more responses.
 
I honestly don't go with the rule of thumb " as big as the gap between their eyes." I've fed my younger veiled full grown Supers at 4 months old and never had a problem with impactation or her choking. And I've always given her crickets larger than the eye gap with no problem. That rule was more or less made to protect your chameleon from the "what if" factor. Saying they're more likely to choke on it. And allows for easier digestion as well. Much of the time though they're going to know if they can take it down or not. They'll size it up. Most animals know their bodily functions quite well and will decide if something is going to be dinner or not. Go ahead and try giving your cham a large Hornworm. If she seems to struggle or doesn't deficate as usual, you'll know the feeder was to large. I think we all tend to be over protective and paranoid when it comes to our babies. Good luck!(y)
 
I honestly don't go with the rule of thumb " as big as the gap between their eyes." I've fed my younger veiled full grown Supers at 4 months old and never had a problem with impactation or her choking. And I've always given her crickets larger than the eye gap with no problem. That rule was more or less made to protect your chameleon from the "what if" factor. Saying they're more likely to choke on it. And allows for easier digestion as well. Much of the time though they're going to know if they can take it down or not. They'll size it up. Most animals know their bodily functions quite well and will decide if something is going to be dinner or not. Go ahead and try giving your cham a large Hornworm. If she seems to struggle or doesn't deficate as usual, you'll know the feeder was to large. I think we all tend to be over protective and paranoid when it comes to our babies. Good luck!(y)
I agree that we tend to worry more about our babies than we should but I would rather be safe than sorry. I will see if she will eat the larger worms since they are her favorite and I'm here with her on Sundays.
 
Hey Gwendalyn,
My Chams won't eat hornworms over 2" long, after that I pupate them and feed them the moth. Sometimes they'll eat them. Don't waste the hornworms. Every Cham is different, it's always a quest to figure out what they're hungry for. You need to have options on hand always, keep trying different things, that's half the fun/ battle They keep you guessing.
Dave
 
I tried feeding my veiled some med dubia roaches and he ate 6 the first day and hasn't touched them since same way with the supers. Guess he's just a picky eater
 
I tried feeding my veiled some med dubia roaches and he ate 6 the first day and hasn't touched them since same way with the supers. Guess he's just a picky eater
My guy did the same thing, gorged himself with dubias and then said "Nope, I want some crickets and worms" I still catch him eyeballing the dubia like he's thinking "I want you to get just a bit bigger!"
 
I tried feeding my veiled some med dubia roaches and he ate 6 the first day and hasn't touched them since same way with the supers. Guess he's just a picky eater
My girl doesn't seem to be a picky eater, so I hope she'll eat the dubias I bought. What do you do with the feeders that he won't eat?
 
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