Horrible News
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Kaianuanu
New Member
Haha, read my last response, you read my mind lol.
Hakai
Member
Deffinatly, this is as scary as it gets.
Kaianuanu
New Member
Haha just try not to make a big deal about it, and you might not feel so squeamish. Just imagine yourself shooting the small green buck of a lifetime and and it's time to claim your meat (mmm backstraps). Lol anyway cut the chit-chat it's time for you to get to cutting! The body is degrading more and more by the minute!
Carlton
Chameleon Enthusiast
Depending on what their necropsy would include (just a gross dissection looking for very obvious visible things or also include some lab analysis of organ tissue) that's not a bad price.
Here's my take on doing your own or paying someone to do it:
If you do it yourself, realistically all you will probably be able to determine is whether there was some sort of traumatic event like internal injury, a damaged or ruptured organ, choking, pneumonia, prolapse, internal bleeding, that will be visible and obviously not normal. You'll need pics of healthy organs to compare as you do this. If you look for parasites, the infestation would have to be severe to have caused sudden death so we are talking about lots of mature worms blocking or filling the intestine or lungs. Nutritional deficiencies or overdoses, minor parasite loads, circulatory system parasites, maybe some other organ defects or disease may not be obvious except to an experienced eye. You'll have to take lots of photos for anyone here to guess. This is where the vet's necropsy will help you determine if your husbandry was the problem. If this was my cham and its death was really unexpected, I would spend the money unless you happen to know someone who could examine your cham without charging you much (except getting some lab work done).
little leaf
Avid Member
your efforts have not gone to waste- this is called learning - I am so sorry for your loss- it is so hard to lose them, but dont give up, the best way to learn is to keep at it- and you did the right things- it is so hard to tell when they do not feel well , they are so good at hiding it- and by the time you think something is wrong- it is very wrong - but you had an apt/ - so its not like you did not try to seek help - once again , sorry you lost your little one
Hakai
Member
your efforts have not gone to waste- this is called learning - I am so sorry for your loss- it is so hard to lose them, but dont give up, the best way to learn is to keep at it- and you did the right things- it is so hard to tell when they do not feel well , they are so good at hiding it- and by the time you think something is wrong- it is very wrong - but you had an apt/ - so its not like you did not try to seek help - once again , sorry you lost your little one
thank you guys so much, your deffinatly all playing a huge roll in regaining of feeling adequate to care for these amazing creatures.
Hakai
Member
I appreciate your condolences. The results were rather inconclusive but we believe there to blockage in the digestive tract. I defiantly learned a lot about their anatomy and will be better prepared for (if there is) next time.
laurie
Retired Moderator
You should have a next time. I have been a cham keeper for years. I just lost a completely healthy cham. I thought he had a problem and took him to the vet. The vet (who keeps chams) could not understand why I brought TJ in. Said he was a perfect cham and very healthy. He died in the vets office about 15 minutes after that. The vet, the friend who went along, and I were all in shock. It can and does happen. Am I over losing TJ? Not even close, but life goes on, and you just have to get past it. I am sorry as I know how much it hurts.
Hakai
Member
Thank you, due to all your kind words and encouragement, I'm going to pick another (still hardy) species of cham and continue my research. Hopefully I will purchase another within a few months.
