How do I sex a panther?

[RhettusMaximus]

Just bought an ambilobe panther chameleon and was wondering how to sex it since the people at the store i got it from didn't seem to know how. Is sexing a panther chameleon just like sexing a veiled? Will a panther have a spur on the back of the foot if it's male? What are some easy ways to sex baby panther chameleons? The one I have is about 3 months old it looks like.

 

[dodolah]

Just bought an ambilobe panther chameleon and was wondering how to sex it since the people at the store i got it from didn't seem to know how. Is sexing a panther chameleon just like sexing a veiled? Will a panther have a spur on the back of the foot if it's male? What are some easy ways to sex baby panther chameleons? The one I have is about 3 months old it looks like.

here is a good article:
http://www.chameleonnews.com/year2002/march2002/pages/buying_a_baby_blue.html

 

[RhettusMaximus]

article

Thanks for the article. The guy at the petstore told me that it would have a spur if it was a male and i said i think that's just veileds. He says it's with both, but looking at pictures it doesn't look like they have spurs haha. My cham is starting to get alot of specs of crimson on it, especially where the beard is.

From what the article said it's hard for me to tell at this point. This morning my cham was grey but now this afternoon the cham is orangeish with lots of red coming in in certain places... I'll have to post pics of it when i get them.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

"The guy at the pet store"
Panthers do not have a spur.
The tail base will be larger on a male to accomodate the hemipenal glands.

-Brad

 

[lele]

they do not have spurs, you are correct that it is only veiled chams.

Do you know how old it is? The bulge of the male hemipene can show as early as a few months. If you go here and look at the "boy?" photos you can see the blue in Cy's cheeks and the little bulge at the base of his tail (sorry I can't include photos, webshots doesn't hyperlink). He was three months old. He is a Nosy Be so not sure about the coloration (showing blue in cheeks) but if yours is much more than a few months, and a male, I would think the hemipene would be noticeable. If you can post pics of that area I am sure someone can help you sex him/her.

 

[RhettusMaximus]

pics

I will have pictures posted in about an hour and half, can someone tell me how to post a picture on a reply to a thread?

 

[kinyonga]

Veileds are not the only chameleon species where the male has spurs...but panthers do not have spurs for sure! Gracefuls, some flapnecks, C. africanus and a few others have spurs.

The tail base should let you know even at a fairly young age.

 

[RhettusMaximus]

pictures of the little cham

this is the cham, i took 5 pics of it, hopefully one will give someone a better clue than i have as to the sex of this chameleon.

http://<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/RhettusMaximus/?action=view&current=P1060047.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/RhettusMaximus/P1060047.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

 

[RhettusMaximus]

99-100

I just realized i'm at 99 posts, and now i'm at 100 haha. Besides that, someone look at the pictures and tell me what you think!

 

[Chase]

If I were to guess I would say female. But this is my guess.

 

[lele]

Veileds are not the only chameleon species where the male has spurs...but panthers do not have spurs for sure! Gracefuls, some flapnecks, C. africanus and a few others have spurs.

The tail base should let you know even at a fairly young age.

oops! I guess I should have clarified that I meant b/t those two (veiled & panther) as I certainly do not know anything about any other chams! Thanks for catching that, k

 

[Kent67]

Pretty sure the advanced rostral process development and the full tail base mean you've got a male there. Bet you can't wait to see him get color!

 

[RhettusMaximus]

boy

I'm hoping he's a baby boy! Thanks alot pal!

 

[RhettusMaximus]

second opinion

anyone care to give a second opinion?

 

[Chameleon Kingdom]

Looks like a boy to me!! I'd say about 3 ish months old.

 

[Treetop Chameleons]

i don't know i think I'm going to disagree and say i think its a female. the base of the tail realy is not that fat, i could be wrong let me know how it turns out.

 

[Dean Pulcini]

Looks like a female to me the tail looks thin, I could be wrong and should have a hint of color if it were a male.

 

[RhettusMaximus]

panther

he has alot of the color green coming in and a long lateral white stripe on the side now. I don't really think it's female... i'll have to post pics that show "it's" color a bit better.

 

[Lancecham]

Sometimes at that age, it is hard to tell, especially before the males begin to get their color. Based on the size, I would say a male. A female should have a lot of peach colors.

 

[rcagosto]

leaning towards female