jajeanpierre
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They don't sell them in most pet stores.
how to get a baby to eat?
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They don't sell them in most pet stores.
jajeanpierre
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You are talking about a 2-week old baby panther?
What sort of misting/fogging do you have?
Who suggested a reptibreeze?
serenaj25
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I hand mist him around 5 times a day 20 second sessions until I can get a fogger. A reptibreeze is what I had left over as my old chams cage
jajeanpierre
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serenaj25
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why ann i in trouble? he eats and drinks just fine i think he's around 3 weeks old now bc it's been a week since i got him
serenaj25
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what else should i be doing
serenaj25
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i have a fogger coming in this weekend
jajeanpierre
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I have zero experience with panthers but I do have a lot of experience hatching baby quads and graciliors (Trioceros quadricornis quadricornis and T.q.gracilior). My babies hatch at about 1.0g to 1.1g which I believe is quite a bit bigger than a panther hatches at.
(How much does your baby weigh?)
I am hoping a panther breeder will chime in. @bobcochran can you help??? @Matt Vanilla Gorilla?
All neonates are very fragile and dehydration is an issue. No breeder I know of keeps their babies in screen cages. It is my understanding that they are housed in tubs to keep the humidity up. A screen cage is just too drying in my opinion, but again, I know zero about panther neonates.
My own neonates are housed in a variety of things everything from a tub with an automatic misting misthead overhead plus a fogger, an Exo-Terra with misters and foggers or a screen-fronted/topped solid sided cage with misters and foggers. I have the babies hooked up to the automatic system for the adults, but will also mist more often if I don't think the misters plus foggers are enough. I run foggers all night for little babies.
The following is my opinion and not based on any knowledge of panthers, just baby chameleons. Right off the bat a medium screen reptibreeze for a one gram or so baby is just plain a big problem You would have to put in about 1000 pinhead crickets for the baby to find them and they would all escape out of the screen so you would be doing it again the next day. Your feed bill would be through the roof.
Fruit flies are less problematic because you can attract them to feeding stations by spearing a piece of old but very wet (i.e., basically rotting) fruit to a stick. Again, you would have to put in vast amounts for a tiny baby to be able to find it.
You have not talked in a way that makes me think you are putting enough food in for the baby to find. As I mentioned earlier, it is more about the density of prey--how many food items per cubic inch of cage--and how distributed throughout the cage.
Hand misting a total of 100 seconds a day in a screen cage is just not enough humidity for a neonate--again, in my opnion.
You've claimed that you did a lot of research but it seems you haven't researched raising a neonate. You really need to get up to speed on raising neonates. They don't give you much room for error--when they go downhill, they don't have the resilience to rebound.
Good luck. I hope I have helped rather than discouraged you. I hope some of the experienced panther breeders will chime in.
serenaj25
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I really appreciate your concern. I have a fogger on the way and I do not free range the crickets. I put the baby cham on a small stick and then put the stick in a Tupperware container with many crickets in it. I always supervise him while he's eating and when he's finished I put the crickets back in the cricket pen. Also, I have been in contact with Matt Vanilla Gorila and he has been giving me advice as well.
jajeanpierre
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I am so glad a panther person is helping you. I'll let you two work it out.
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