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CleaTheChameleon

CleaTheChameleon

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This is what i like doing but i guess to some people i do things wrong and the only person stoppign me from the compacts is my dad. He doesnt belive anythign i say about it. Im not going to fight at people for something i didnt do. I was wrong the whole time and didnt knwo what i got myself into. I am a failure at everything in life, and i bet now because what i did she will lay the infertile clutch and pass away soon after she lays. Thats why im leaving im not gonna have peopel yell at me bcause of what i did wrong i know what i did and im not ready to put up with the fight. As always the are right and im not. What was i thinking. So now even though i dont wanna leave becaus ei love these creatures...i guess i may leave you guys are better without me.:(
 
Kinda taking your ball and going home ain't it.

Stop trying to convince your dad. Show him the articles. If after that he still wants to argue..Not much you can do..He is your dad after all. But you will get the satisfaction of telling him "I told you so" when and if something goes wrong. BTW a UV meter can really help make sure your cham doesn't go blind.

As far as people here harping on you. Tell them to STFU. You are a child and your hands are tied. So they can pretty much go to hell.

Not that I've really seen anyone coming down on you. I may have missed it though.
 
Pure said:
Kinda taking your ball and going home ain't it.

Stop trying to convince your dad. Show him the articles. If after that he still wants to argue..Not much you can do..He is your dad after all. But you will get the satisfaction of telling him "I told you so" when and if something goes wrong. BTW a UV meter can really help make sure your cham doesn't go blind.

As far as people here harping on you. Tell them to STFU. You are a child and your hands are tied. So they can pretty much go to hell.

Not that I've really seen anyone coming down on you. I may have missed it though.
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pure its nothign bad they say its what needs to be done but what sucks is family really is not suppportive with me and clea. Whenever i wanna do something everyone is always like when are you gonna stop. That is something that pulls me down. today i overfed her and it was really wrong for me to do and now i am really gonna feed her less but some peopel dont belive me and im scared she gonna lay her infertile clutch and die becauyse of me:(:(:( *crying* no joke
 
I think you need to work on your self confidence a little and not worry what people think you cant change how someone thinks. As for chameleons you should stick with it if you enjoy it and learn for your mistakes as all of us have.

Dean
 
Again Stefan,

I think it's good that you know that you did something wrong and the fact that it might have some repercussion (consequence) because of it.
But, to run away or completely hide whenever you are faced with difficulties is not a good habit to learn.
So, the best way to deal with it is learn from your mistakes and never again overfeed Clea.

As far as your dad goes, just do your best in trying to convince him (provide him the scientific papers and so on. If he still refuse to listen about how bad compact uvb is, then find a better way.
Clea is your chameleon, am i right? It is not your dad's. So, essentially, you have a defenseless creature that is depending on you for her survival.
The responsibility falls on YOUR hands.

Perhaps try to "earn" money to buy a linear uvb (sell lemonades, cut neighbor's lawn, clean the gutter, or anything..).
This will show your dad that you mean business. That you are a responsible kid and will do anything necessary to protect your responsibility (Clea).

I believe no dad in this world cannot be happy/ proud seeing his kid somehow "man up."

The idea is not giving your dad a lecture about responsibility. But, living by examples.
Lecturing will fall into deaf ears. I know I would feel annoyed if my kids (who still cannot support themselves) are lecturing me about responsibility.
See this in a different perspective.

I cannot speak for your dad's behalf.. This is a pure conjecture of my own.
I know that I will give my kids option of owning a pet.. and there will be problems that I will let my kids solve on their own, since imho it is the best way to teach my kids the meaning of the word "responsibility."

I understand that you are sad. But, don't let that sadness blind your common sense. If every time you are facing difficulties, you run.. or hide or quit.. then you are missing a heck lot of opportunity to learn and become a better person..

Hope that helps.
 
If those people truly know you, they know how much you care. They should also know that you are still a child. I can promise you when they were your age they did something they were told not to. It's part of growing up. But like Dean said, learn from your mistakes and move on.
 
dodolah said:
Again Stefan,

I think it's good that you know that you did something wrong and the fact that it might have some repercussion (consequence) because of it.
But, to run away or completely hide whenever you are faced with difficulties is not a good habit to learn.
So, the best way to deal with it is learn from your mistakes and never again overfeed Clea.

As far as your dad goes, just do your best in trying to convince him (provide him the scientific papers and so on. If he still refuse to listen about how bad compact uvb is, then find a better way.
Clea is your chameleon, am i right? It is not your dad's. So, essentially, you have a defenseless creature that is depending on you for her survival.
The responsibility falls on YOUR hands.

Perhaps try to "earn" money to buy a linear uvb (sell lemonades, cut neighbor's lawn, clean the gutter, or anything..).
This will show your dad that you mean business. That you are a responsible kid and will do anything necessary to protect your responsibility (Clea).

I believe no dad in this world cannot be happy/ proud seeing his kid somehow "man up."

The idea is not giving your dad a lecture about responsibility. But, living by examples.
Lecturing will fall into deaf ears. I know I would feel annoyed if my kids (who still cannot support themselves) are lecturing me about responsibility.
See this in a different perspective.

I cannot speak for your dad's behalf.. This is a pure conjecture of my own.
I know that I will give my kids option of owning a pet.. and there will be problems that I will let my kids solve on their own, since imho it is the best way to teach my kids the meaning of the word "responsibility."

I understand that you are sad. But, don't let that sadness blind your common sense. If every time you are facing difficulties, you run.. or hide or quit.. then you are missing a heck lot of opportunity to learn and become a better person..

Hope that helps.
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Dodalh thanks i will stay here learn from my mistakes and let nothign ever get in my way. i know how a schedule of feedign to ahng in my room to remember and i will alwatys live by it. I apprecite your kind words and yeah i am a baby that is movin on in life!
 
Perhaps you can give Clea away to someone who can give her the right UVB needs? Use these forums as a way of help.. not a way of pain.

I would send you one of the lights I have but I am in a bit of a money crisis right now. I hope all goes well.
 
Hang in there Clea's owner (sorry I dont know your name). dodolah's comments are really good. Finding an alternative way to get a bulb, doing your best to look after Clea, that's the way to show your father you are learning responsibility.
And learn from your mistakes - we all make them - and feed her a lesser better amount now onwards.

Until you can afford to get a better bulb, Raise the UVB coil bulb up so its not too close to her. Have it on for a shorter period of time. Take Clea outside daily if you can for an hour or more of sun, if it doesnt stress her too much.
 
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Hey, just because she is spending time under the coil does not mean she is going to die! I remember reading a thread a while ago where an owner kept a female to live 5 or 6 years under compacts and with bark substrate...This is of course only situation.
 
I think you should re-evaluate if you can provide the necessary care for Clea.

In the end you are responsible for Clea, but your parents are responsible for her as well. If they can't provide the necessary care, then perhaps it might be time to find her a new home before any health problems occur.

Good luck.
 
CleaTheChameleon said:
i though u hated me
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Of course not, hate is a word that you use for nazi's, the boogeyman, and stubbing your toe.

I just want you to concentrate, listen, and focus on what people have to tell you. Everyone just wants the best for your chameleon, it just helps if you take criticism well and don't play victim.

You gotta man up and face your problems head on, you can do it. You just have to be determined and not give up.
 
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