I'm worried for my Chameleon. Help?

Kaorin

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I've had my chameleon for about 6 weeks now. She is 4 years old, and I am slightly concerned. The man I purchased her from tells me her behaviour is perfectly normal, but I'd like a second opinion.

Firstly, I can tell she's due to lay eggs, as she is wider, and the lumps are fairly noticeable around her rear legs. She started to dig a lot, for about a week, but did not lay eggs, and has now stopped digging. She simply sits on her branch and only retreats to the bottom of her enclosure for water out of her fountain, sometimes. After she stopped digging, I tried setting up an egg-laying area for her by purchasing some red, desert sand, and filling a small, plastic bin half-way with it. I placed it at an angle on the bottom of her enclosure with a branch leading in/out of it so that she has easy access to it. She ignored it completely, and hasn't done any digging whatsoever.

She is also uninterested in her food. She would previously eat large crickets the moment I'd put them in her enclosure. Sometimes, I wouldn't even have a chance to get them out the box before she'd snap them up! But now she ignores them, and hasn't eaten since the 6th! It is now the 15th. I have always made sure there is food available in this time.

She also seems a hell of a lot less energetic. She moves around a little, but not like she used to. She mainly stays positioned on her branch, usually close to the heat lamp. She seems weaker than usual. Her grip doesn't seem as strong, and she seems to find it more difficult to stay stable on her branches when climbing around. Her colours are dark, too. Not all the time, but the majority of the time. When she sleeps, she turns bright green again, but later in the day she is usually quite dark. It's a possibility she's cold? I may try upping her temps a bit tonight, but it is currently on 84, which should be sufficient?

My research tells me it is normal for chameleons to have less energy when due to lay, and to stop eating/eat less, but I am still concerned! I may try introducing a different food? I love her very much and just want to make sure that I am doing the best for her! So please, any suggestions would be HUGELY appreciated. Thank you!
 
im sure someone will mention the fountain thing, typically people suggest not having a fountain because they get dirty fast.

unfortunately i dont have any experience with female chams at this point but i can say if you fill out the "how to ask for help" form youll get faster/ better responses.

how big/deep is her egg laying bin? is the sand dry or damp? do you sit there watching her or do you normally give her space and just find the evidence later?

i think in the end she will be ok but the more info you give the better answers youll get.
 
Thanks

Thanks for the response. I am a new cham owner, and I purchased her and her enclosure as a single buy. The fountain was included, and I cleaned it out just the other day, and realised how dirty it had gotten =/ upon realisation of this, I will be sure to clean it out very regularly. I mist her tank also, so it is not the only water she gets =].

Ah, thank you! I will fill out the form right away!

Just off the top of my head, I think the bin may be about 35cm in height? I am at work so that's a complete guess! It is filled approx. half-way with sand. I tried misting the sand to make it fairly moist for her. I work full time, so Monday - Friday she is alone all day. I have been a bit guilty of spending the weekend checking on her and watching her fairly closely due to my worrying. I'll try to back off a bit haha! Thank you so much for your response, heartben!
 
Health form

Okay, here's the form to add to my original post:

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled cham, female, 4 years old. In my care for 6 weeks. Handling - I handle her maybe a few times a week? Only when she willingly climbs on to my arm, or shows signs of wanting to come out. Only held for very short periods of time.
Feeding - Large crickets. Usually 2 per day. I leave onions, potato peelings, courgettes etc in their box.
Supplements - Have only just bought my first supplements for her. Has not yet been used due to her not currently eating.
Watering - Simple, small metal spray bottle. Filled with warm water, and mist her enclosure once per day, typically using about a third of the bottle. I've only ever seen her drink from the foutnain. She doesn't like it very much when I mist.
Fecal Description - Dark brown. Not much bigger than the end of my finger. No checking for parasites has occured while in my possession.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Glass. Unsure of the dimensions.
Lighting - Again, unsure of the brands. All equipment was supplied with my purchasing her. I have a tubular UV light inside the enclosure, a heat lamp, and a single light/fan positioned on the top of the enclosure.
Temperature - The thermostat is set to 84F. I have no other means of checking the temps besides setting it to this level. Occasional positioning of ym hand within the enclosure to check if it is warm.
Humidity - I have no idea how to check humidity! I've simply misted the tank every morning before going to work.
Plants - Only fake plants are inside her enclosure.
Placement - Enclosure is not near any air vents, fans, or high traffic area. It is almost mid-way between the floor and the ceiling of my room.
Location - I live in the midlands of the United Kingdom.
 
I think you need to take her to the vets ASAP. If a chameleon digs and does not lay the eggs and then starts to act lethargic, doesn't eat, seems weak, etc. she is likely eggbound and needs to go to the vet. If she's taken quickly enough a dose of oxytocin might make her lay the eggs, but if she is eggbound and can't lay them she will have to be spayed. I'm particularly concerned because in another thread you said she hadn't been given supplements.
 
Oh my...

I have wondered if she is egg-bound myself... Can I take her to any vet? Or do I need to locate a specific type of vet? I think in Stafford my options of places may be limited... I am hugely concerned.

You're right, she hasn't... I was instructed by the person I bought her from to not do so. Which I now realise was a mistake. As soon as I realised, I purchased some, but she is not eating so I cannot give them to her... I feel guilty that I didn't realise this sooner, but I am doing the best I can :( I'm extremely worried for her. I will search the internet for a suitable vet right away...
 
You can likely buy liquid calcium gluconate or calcium sandoz at a pharmacy...and you could give her some of that in a syringe or eyedropper.

It should be an exotics vet you take her to for the spaying...but if a regular vet talked to an exotics vet s/he could get instructions as to how much oxytocin to give her. (Calcium also helps with contractions, BTW.)
 
Thank you!

Thank you so much for your time!

I've booked an appointment at a reptile specialist vet for tonight. I'm too worried to wait much longer. It's quite a distance away, but the guy at the shop I purchased her from is making some calls to find someone to get me there... Fingers crossed!

I do hope it's just a case of giving her some Oxytocin to encourage her to lay her eggs, and then she'll be well again. It's probably going to cost a lot of money... but I'll do whatever it takes to get Tomo back to her happy self!

I think my next worry is avoiding heart failure once I get the bill :eek:
 
Well...

I rushed Tomo to the vet. She was examined, and the vet agreed that she is egg-bound. They're giving her fluids to see if she will pass the eggs naturally tonight, but they say it's unlikely she will. If she doesn't, she will be operated on tomorrow, and promptly returning home. He said apart from that, she appears to be in good shape =]. The bill was a lot, but less than expected, and all I care about is getting Tomo well.

I feel sad that she's going through this, but I'm relieved that she's in good hands now, and she'll be okay =] thank you Kinyonga, for suggesting an immediate visit to the vet!
 
Possible

I suppose it's very possible that I could've looked at her/interrupted her in some way? I am unsure... She was digging around the bottom of her enclosure and the dirt wasn't hugely deep, and perhaps that was the issue? She didn't find it adequate enough for her egg-laying? I ordered sand to set up her egg-laying bin, but by the time it'd arrived, it was too late and she'd lost interest in digging.
 
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