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paulwallbaby6969

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I have a very sick 1 year old female veiled who has been laying on the floor of her cage for the last week and hardly moving, won't drink. I think I'm to blame as I overfed her superworms, eating avg. 5-6/day for about two weeks.

She shot out one blank egg about 4 weeks ago from her perch. It seems like she's eggbound as her belly is swollen. I don't have the money to pay for a vet to inject her with oxytocin. Where can I buy Oxytocin, how much should I inject her with and is it a subcutaneous injection in the rear leg?

Thanks
 
paulwallbaby6969 said:
I have a very sick 1 year old female veiled who has been laying on the floor of her cage for the last week and hardly moving, won't drink. I think I'm to blame as I overfed her superworms, eating avg. 5-6/day for about two weeks.

She shot out one blank egg about 4 weeks ago from her perch. It seems like she's eggbound as her belly is swollen. I don't have the money to pay for a vet to inject her with oxytocin. Where can I buy Oxytocin, how much should I inject her with and is it a subcutaneous injection in the rear leg?

Thanks
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Oxytocin is by Rx only. If you can get a vet to sell it to you, and a lot will, they will tell you how much and yes it is subcutaneous injection but you need to inject calcium first or the oxytocin won't work, I injected behind the front leg but I don't think it matters.
 
I don't think anything should be injected in the back leg...their system will just dump it into the kidneys from what I've been told.

If the female has been eggbound for over a week there is a very good chance that the oxytocin won't work anyway and it may even cause her damage or cause the eggs to rupture if the eggs are swollen. If it is too late for it to work, then the only other option is surgery.
 
Has anyone ever performed a c-section themselves? I mean as long as you know where to cut, how to stitch, and sterilize, how hard can it be, right?
 
paulwallbaby6969 said:
Has anyone ever performed a c-section themselves? I mean as long as you know where to cut, how to stitch, and sterilize, how hard can it be, right?
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You are kidding,right? I have used oxytocin before with about a 50% sucess rate,so it's a gamble even for an experienced person. Your best bet is to take it to an experienced vet and leave it with them and maybe they can save her life. This animal has zero chance with you experimenting on her.
 
If you are not a vet, dont perform any kinda' surgery at home!!!!!!! Just imagine if you were in a serious trouble and your brother try to performed a c-section on you.... so go to the vet!
 
Moral?

paulwallbaby6969 said:
Has anyone ever performed a c-section themselves? I mean as long as you know where to cut, how to stitch, and sterilize, how hard can it be, right?
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I would not recommend even trying that, you have no way of administering anestesia to sedate her. And cutting her open without is simply inhumane.... and very risky.

I think If It were me and I were short on funds I would call around until I found a Vet willing to help her and work something out with me payment wise.

In any event best of luck.
 
Do not attempt a DIY c-section. I mean if your a veterinary student with access to appropriate surgical tools and anesthesia thats one thing. But doing it yourself in your home is just ignorant and abusive. Better to euthanize the poor girl than put her thru that. Find a vet that will help and offer to make paymnts they do that for people all the time.
 
Other ideas:

-sticking a syringe up the vagina and trying to suck out eggs that way.
-injecting some solution into the vagina that will cause the eggs to just liquify?
Someone told me its possible she could absorb the eggs over time.. Is that true? Her belly is pretty swollen.
 
paulwallbaby6969 said:
Other ideas:

-sticking a syringe up the vagina and trying to suck out eggs that way.
-injecting some solution into the vagina that will cause the eggs to just liquify?
Someone told me its possible she could absorb the eggs over time.. Is that true? Her belly is pretty swollen.
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You need to take her to a vet.

Attempting any of those things on your own will almost certainly result in her death.
 
paulwallbaby6969 said:
Other ideas:

-sticking a syringe up the vagina and trying to suck out eggs that way.
-injecting some solution into the vagina that will cause the eggs to just liquify?
Someone told me its possible she could absorb the eggs over time.. Is that true? Her belly is pretty swollen.
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Are you for real? It sounds like you are just trolling the internet trying to fire people up...
 
Why are you wasting time looking up methods that are suspect at best. When you could be looking for a competent vet to help that poor girl. She's prob in pain by now if its been weeks since she dropped the first egg. My question to you is this: Why did it take almost a month before you decided to try to help her? I mean you obviously saw she was in trouble and needed some help. Also did you/do you have a suitable laying bin in with her? Its prob way too late to help now but she should have access to a bin at all times. If your going to sit there and not take the advice of others with more exp than yourself then why did you even ask for help in the first place? Just to make us pity that poor cham.
 
i understand how u feel u love ur cham and want to help her but do not have the money to take her to the vet ($500) .believe me i am a broke sob too lol. ur best bet would be to ask a family member to borrow some money or try calling around for some pro bono work i wish u best of luck and i dont believe ur just being silly. good luck and god speed maybe a reptile rescue
 
Your Chameleon

I am fairly new to the forums although I have been keeping chams since I was young. I am very sorry to hear about your sick chameleon. I would not blame yourself feeding superworms to your chameleon. I agree with most everyone on this thread that a DIY surgery would cause more harm than good (to your chameleon and yourself- emotionally). I would suggest calling around and trying to speak to a vet yourself, especially one specializing in exotics. Sometimes they offer a payment plan or may do this gratis as it sounds like you really care for your animal. Regarding an injection of oxytocin I would leave that to an experienced person. My former field of study was in herpetology/endocrinology and again I think that it may do more harm than good (trying to find the hormones/dose/etc.). I am not much of a poster but just wanted to offer my 2 cents as I see you really are worried about your pet. Best of luck.


paulwallbaby6969 said:
I have a very sick 1 year old female veiled who has been laying on the floor of her cage for the last week and hardly moving, won't drink. I think I'm to blame as I overfed her superworms, eating avg. 5-6/day for about two weeks.

She shot out one blank egg about 4 weeks ago from her perch. It seems like she's eggbound as her belly is swollen. I don't have the money to pay for a vet to inject her with oxytocin. Where can I buy Oxytocin, how much should I inject her with and is it a subcutaneous injection in the rear leg?

Thanks
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Thanks for the responses. I took everyone's suggestion and took her to a cheaper vet, who only works with cats and dogs. The vet agreed she was bloated but he said he could not feel any eggs. He checked her for parasites, none. He gave me a antibiotic to give her orally, as the inflamation could be a bacterial infection. Just to be safe, he did inject her in her back with oxytocin, calcium, and vitamins to see if she passes anything. It's been several hours and she hasn't laid any eggs and she's still not moving. I have her on wood chips and left her alone.

I do find it interesting though how the price you pay at a vet is always more than the price to just buy a new healthy animal. If people weren't so attached to their animals, vets wouldn't have a job.

By the way, I got a quote to have a c-section performed, $700-$1000. And, there's a good chance after the surgery that the cham would remain infertile.
 
paulwallbaby6969 said:
I do find it interesting though how the price you pay at a vet is always more than the price to just buy a new healthy animal. If people weren't so attached to their animals, vets wouldn't have a job.

By the way, I got a quote to have a c-section performed, $700-$1000. And, there's a good chance after the surgery that the cham would remain infertile.
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You're right, if you wait until the last minute to bargain shop because you don't do your homework the vet bills do add up to more than some animals are worth. What are you worth? Do you consider that when you go to your doctor? Good thing no one evaluates you based on purchasing costs alone when you get sick because I'm pretty sure any major doctor bills are going to be more than they charged your mom to deliver you. Same?

And it sounds like your cham being infertile would be of benefit to her so you don't try any radical *cruel* procedures on her because it's cheap the next time this happens.

Sorry...this thread struck a nerve...can you tell?
 
I honestly don't think this person is serious about what their saying. They have to be trolling. If you are being completely serious, I do apologize but you need to do some serious research before you take any other chams into your care. You should also try and save up some money to place in an emergency fund set aside for your cham, as there will always be something that could happen.
 
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