Interspecies relations

JackRipper

JackRipper

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I though this was incredible and figured most of you would appreciate it as well. A graceful chameleon mating with a female veiled
Watch "My Graceful(male) and Veiled(female) Chameleon copulation" on YouTube
 
While not "relations". I can verify that beardies,frillies,water(y's?) know what each others head bob /arm wave means. We have also seen pics of water dragons and bearded dragons having "relations", but we never get waterbeardies. There has been confirmed pics on this forum of ousts and panthers producing offspring.
 
the look on her face is priceless haha; all that going on and her eyes are looking like she's looking for a cricket to catch ... haha
 
Beman said:
IMO Pointless and a stupid thing to do
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JackRipper said:
Why?
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IMO if there was no force at all in making them mate, it was completely by choice and all the owner did was show the chams to each other and plop one in the others cage, then I don't have a problem with it.

On the other hand, if they were forced to mate then of course it would be stupid.

But it looks like they had some fun and liked it?
 
Beman said:
Why attempt to mate animals that can not be mated successfully? It is pointless. This person did this for their own amusement and for others. Not to breed to procreate. This is why I think it is stupid.
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In the name of science? There are cases of Other species of chameleon that have supposedly been bred successfully. We do it with dogs and cats.. anyways I find it interesting that they paired at all.
 
MissSkittles said:
I’m with @Beman on this. Why would someone put these two chams together?
Umm...who puts their dogs and cats together to mate?
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Lmao no no no not breeding dogs with cats? but two different breeds of dogs like a mastiff and a poodle or two different breeds of cat to create a desired outcome like the pug or tiger cat..
 
JackRipper said:
In the name of science? There are cases of Other species of chameleon that have supposedly been bred successfully. We do it with dogs and cats.. anyways I find it interesting that they paired at all.
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In the name of science??? Bred successfully to me means to produce offspring. This just shows that two species can copulate. I get why people will cross breed Panther locals although I think it dilutes the blood lines. They at least are still the same type of chameleon from the same areas. But to try to breed a chameleon found in Africa to one found in Yemen IMO is pointless.

Like breeding a Lion to a Tiger... This IMO is one of the things that is truly sick about how humans always have to try to create something different. Heaven forbid we just enjoy the original wonder of an animal for what it is.
 
MissSkittles said:
I’m with @Beman on this. Why would someone put these two chams together?
Umm...who puts their dogs and cats together to mate?
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Sorry Mrs Jackson I should've been more clear on that I was typing from my car in between stops. I can see how someone may be confused by my short sentences in that reply.
 
Hybridization is largely considered unethical (aside from the people who get a kick out of creating something weird) because it often results in complications and defects- and especially in the case of reptiles & amphibians, it can pollute genetics if the offspring is able to carelessly reproduce. The scientific community doesn't stand to benefit from pointlessly breeding two species that don't share a native range, and throwing together two chameleons just to see what will happen isn't super responsible husbandry
 
Beman said:
In the name of science??? Bred successfully to me means to produce offspring. This just shows that two species can copulate. I get why people will cross breed Panther locals although I think it dilutes the blood lines. They at least are still the same type of chameleon from the same areas. But to try to breed a chameleon found in Africa to one found in Yemen IMO is pointless.

Like breeding a Lion to a Tiger... This IMO is one of the things that is truly sick about how humans always have to try to create something different. Heaven forbid we just enjoy the original wonder of an animal for what it is.
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I believe that breeding can lead to abomination when it comes to weakening a species or breeding in deformities like pie balds.. however it does happen in The wild from time to time and can lead to a new beautiful creation of God.
 
ashdavisa said:
Hybridization is largely considered unethical (aside from the people who get a kick out of creating something weird) because it often results in complications and defects- and especially in the case of reptiles & amphibians, it can pollute genetics if the offspring is able to carelessly reproduce. The scientific community doesn't stand to benefit from pointlessly breeding two species that don't share a native range, and throwing together two chameleons just to see what will happen isn't super responsible husbandry
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There's an excellent documentary on youtube about Anoles and how quickly they evolve/adapt from island to island depending on the terrain, have you seen it? If not it's very interesting video I highly recommend. I do disagree with alot of the manipulation despite the great abundance of data collected.
 
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