Introduction, new enclosure and Furcifer Pardalis ambilobe red bar

Michael Hanbeukers

Michael Hanbeukers

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My name is Michael and i live in the Netherlands. I'm 35 years old and i did this the last few weeks. If you have any questions ask them
(If my english is not written well please correct me)

The enclosure is: 100cm(lenght)x 60cm (dept)x 140cm (height)
in inches: 39,37x23,62x55,12

Take some wood:
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make the bottem:
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ventilation:
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Put glas in it:
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Make it water close, start to make an enclosure around the excisting.

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Put a TL UV arcadidia D3 6% 90cm installation with reflection, two lampcaps with protection for burning and a water installation in it.
Put ground in it and some plants.

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Test for several days the temprature and the installations and find yourself a resident. (4 month old)

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Haha, we must have been busy, all of us. :D
Maybe the reason is that most of cham keepers here seem to prefer mesh cage.

Your enclosure seems great for the most part, beautiful and well decorated. You have enough paths for your chameleon to climb on and foliage too. But could you add a plant or two in the upper part of your enclosure too? Maybe pothos hanging from the ceiling or something?

The first thing I noticed was your ventilation system. I have a big wooden enclosure much like yours but with open mesh ceiling and ventilation holes on both sides near the bottom. Does your terrarium offer enough airflow the way you have made it? Maybe it does, I'm just curious.

Another thing still. I cant see the lights of your terrarium properly. What kinds of lights do you use?

My enclosure can be viewed here. Nowadays we have a little more vines in there etc. The measurements are 140cm x 70 cm x 200 cm if I can remember correctly.
 
Hey and welcome to the forum!! the cage looks awesome btw! Just one thing it if those are heat lamps in the picture you may want to raise them a bit higher, you dont want your chameleon getting too close and get burned. do you have an automatic mister or do you mist manually?
 
Wow. Really nice enclosure. I am guessing walnut plywood on the sides? Being a woodworker I can really appreciate that. I thnk you have a very nice setup there. Welcome to the forum!
As for the mesh vs glass enclosure, there are several experienced keepers in the states that use eclosures similar to yours. As long as you have your temp/humidity ranges correct, and it sounds like you tested your setup, I thnk you will have one happy resident. Really nice looking panther you have there as well. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
 
Michael Hanbeukers said:
No reaction at all, what do i do wrong?:confused::confused::confused:
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We were all asleep! You posted at 5am here in the states!

I think it looks good. Accross the ocean here we use alot of screen caging for Panthers, and are also used to seeing glass caging with screen and/or screen tops for ventilation. I am also unsure of the types of UVB lighting you have over there so I really cannot comment on the types you have. Another thing we are not used to seeing is lighting inside cages. We place lighting on the tops or outside of the cage. Chameleon will climb on anything, and with the water it seems both a burn and electrical risk. Your chameleon looks nice and healthy.
 
Xepera said:
The first thing I noticed was your ventilation system. I have a big wooden enclosure much like yours but with open mesh ceiling and ventilation holes on both sides near the bottom. Does your terrarium offer enough airflow the way you have made it? Maybe it does, I'm just curious.

Another thing still. I cant see the lights of your terrarium properly. What kinds of lights do you use?
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At the top of the cage there is also ventilation (almost half of the top) so there is enough airflow.

I use two reflection lamps, 40 watt and 25 watt and the temrpatures are tested for one week and are good. In winter time this will be changed into 60watt and 40 watt.

In the front of the top there is a 90cm TL UV lamp.

Jamelon said:
Hey and welcome to the forum!! the cage looks awesome btw! Just one thing it if those are heat lamps in the picture you may want to raise them a bit higher, you dont want your chameleon getting too close and get burned. do you have an automatic mister or do you mist manually?
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He can't get burned. These are special lamp caps which won't warm up. below the lamp cap there is a special roster which also can't warm up. Your question was also my concern.

A mister is for me equipment which creates mist/fog in your cage. So i don't now if we are talking about the same here.

I have two sprinkler from jewelspray in my cage (www.jewelspray.nl) and no automatic mister.
 
Welcome to the Chameleon Forums. You did a great job on your enclosure although I could never imagine keeping my veileds in glass. I don't even keep them in an enclosure at all. I have free range set ups for them and they live free in my house.

Nice pictures! Your little panther is adorable! What's his name?
 
Nice woodworking! My husband is the one who does woodworking in my family, so I will show him your pictures and see if it inspires him. :D
 
The enclosure looks very good to me.

Im curious about the type of a couple of the plants you are using. It looks like in the lower right there is what I call a "mother in-laws tongue" and above that the larger leaf plant looks like a Split leaf Philodendron - are they safe to use / non-toxic? I have several of the Mother In Laws Tongue and wasnt sure if they'd be an okay addition to my chameleon cages. I was pretty sure philodendron was on the toxic list.
 
I used a "Non toxic" list of plants from our dutch forum. The following plants are in the cage:

Schefflera, Ficus Naomi, Guzmania minor, monsteria deliciosa, sanseveria, ficus lyrata.
 
Michael Hanbeukers said:
I used a "Non toxic" list of plants from our dutch forum. The following plants are in the cage:
Schefflera, Ficus Naomi, Guzmania minor, monsteria deliciosa, sanseveria, ficus lyrata.
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My list says: "All parts of Monstera deliciosa (split-leaf philodendron) are poisonous except the ripe fruits." The leaves are also high in oxalic acid. You might want to reconsider using it, if your animal shows any interest in eating leaves (not all panthers eat leaves).

Sanseveria (snake tongue plant) is listed as mildly toxic. I've often considered using it, as I have so many of these plants in the house. I think I'll give it a try. None of my current male panthers eat leaves, so any risk is low. thanks for the idea!
 
Michael Hanbeukers said:
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At the top of the cage there is also ventilation (almost half of the top) so there is enough airflow.

I use two reflection lamps, 40 watt and 25 watt and the temrpatures are tested for one week and are good. In winter time this will be changed into 60watt and 40 watt.

In the front of the top there is a 90cm TL UV lamp.

Your cage looks very nice. Once question i ask is do you have thermostat?

I understand the issue with screen cages not being suitable as i live in the UK, but please say you have themostat. If not you will fry the little guy. :)
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i won't fry anyone!!!!!!.

My temprature below the 40W lamp is 37 degrees celcius and below the 25 w lamp it is 32 degrees celcius. at the bottem of my cage the temprature is 23 degrees celcuis. the lamps are on from 8 o'clock until 21 o'clock. The temprature in the room where the cage is standing is 27 degrees celcius but this will change in the winter to 16 degrees celcius.

You must measure the tempratures at al times don't make a simple change without measurement.
 
sandrachameleon said:
My list says: "All parts of Monstera deliciosa (split-leaf philodendron) are poisonous except the ripe fruits." The leaves are also high in oxalic acid. You might want to reconsider using it, if your animal shows any interest in eating leaves (not all panthers eat leaves).

Sanseveria (snake tongue plant) is listed as mildly toxic. I've often considered using it, as I have so many of these plants in the house. I think I'll give it a try. None of my current male panthers eat leaves, so any risk is low. thanks for the idea!
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My list says: only the fruits of the Monstera deliciosa are toxic.
 
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