jackson or veiled...

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

i am having trouble deciding between the two, i like the veiled size but the jacksons horns. what do you all think is better for a first time owner?
I've read through the care sheets of both, but the main thing is the humidity for jacksons i think. how can you keep the humidity so high in a screen enclosure?

 

[Amateur Chameleon]

I am new time owner and I chose a Jacksons. In the winter it is extremely hard to keep up humidity. Mine gets to 70% during misting and drops to 40% in between. I run a humidifier at night and night stays around 60%. I need to figure that out but if you are worried about humidity or difficulty then definitely get a veiled. They are less sensitive to supplementation and need lower humidity.

 

[Remkon]

Veiled usually has ore temperament where a jax is more mellow...
The humidity issue is easily solved with sufficient misting and a humidifier to be safe... I often don't even use the humidifier as humidity usually is 60-70% in my chams room. The biggest challenge I have encountered with my jax is the temperature drop during summer, but putting him outside solves that issue.

 

[JimmySpinks]

I never kept a Jackson but will do at some point.
It is possible for a beginner to keep either if you follow the information from this forum, but a Veiled is certainly more forgiving of slight mistakes (especially if you get a young one).
I am slightly concerned that your name is JACKSON-BREEDER-16 when you have never looked after a chameleon yet. You should have lots of real experience keeping reptiles before you even think of breeding chams.

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

thanks everyone for the replies. the only reason my name is breeder is because i breed crested geckos i don't plan on breeding chameleons @JimmySpinks

 

[JimmySpinks]

Well in that case I say go for whichever species you like the look of more (I know it's a hard choice!).
Veileds need a bit more room, Jacksons need the humidity. It's a not a huge trade off

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

yes it is hard to choose!

 

[ChamLB]

Why not a panther?

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

I haven't researched panthers yet. But I will. Do you have any advice about them? And their humidity needs?

 

[Chameleon Crazy Chick]

Panthers are pretty great. They're colorful, relatively calm, and easy to care for. Their care is almost identical to that of a veiled, only they should have a little bit more space (in my opinion) and a higher humidity. They also don't need as many real plants (veileds tend to eat plants, so they need real ones so they don't choke on a plastic leaf) and they're gorgeous. There are 4 different (COMMON) types of panthers. Ambilobe, Ambanja, Nosy Be and Nosy Faly.
Here are some stereotypical pics of each kind.
Ambilobe:



Ambanja:



Nosy Be:



Nosy Faly:


I personally love all of them, but this is just stereotypical stuff. Not what every cham looks like, obviously. Every cham is different, that's part of what makes them awesome!

 

[Chameleon Crazy Chick]

Ignore the bottom two. I'm still getting the hand of this stuff...

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

Wow! Those are beautiful. Are there any breeders on the forum that sell panthers?

 

[joshuadh2310]

Wow! Those are beautiful. Are there any breeders on the forum that sell panthers?

tons! i know someone who is currently hatching a clutch and would be amazing first time babys if you are willing to wait about 3-4 months. would give you more time to get everything setup and stuff

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

Really! That's awesome!!! How can I contact him?

 

[joshuadh2310]

give me a second and ill pm you

 

[ChamLB]

Check out the panther care sheet not a lot different from veiled but they don't eat veggies. https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/caresheets/panther/
I breed panthers but at the moment don't have any males for sale. Here are our top sires. Rambo, our Ambanja and Dexter, our Nosy Valiha.

 

[JACKSON-BREEDER-16]

They look Awesome!