Just got a 5 month old CB Carpet.. MBD???

arian1123

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Hi Everyone!

Im new to the forum but also new to chameleons and very excited to get started on keeping my new carpet chameleon healthy! Unfortunately I fear I might already be starting on the wrong foot. I have had turtles recently that have MBD, which i luckily was able to save, however it made me very sensitive and paranoid about my reptiles having MBD. I got my chameleon about a week ago. I tried to do everything to make sure that my little carpet does not get MBD but I am open to any input! (PLEASE). I currently keep her in a 12x12x18 exoterra. I know reptibreeze screen cages are better, however it would be too difficult to keep the temperatures and humidity high enough in my house. I will also upgrade the size ASAP. I use a 5.0 UVB bulb and obviously have a basking spot as well. I feed her about 4-5 medium/large crickets that i gutload with flukers. Before feeding them to her I make sure that I dust them with calcium without d3 4 times a week, calcium with d3 once a week, herpavite once a week and 1 day without supplements.
I started getting worried since she normally just sits in a corner at the back of the terrarium (I will post pictures below) and when she when she ventures off her spot she just climbs the top screen and usually get herself into a mess. She will usually fall off, falling only about 4-5 inches and catching herself on vine. It worries me since that is her only movement. She never or rarely climbs the vines and branches (at least when im around). It also started to worry me when I put crickets in. She eats and I have seen that, but she never hunts them. She just waits until they come into her area and at the top of the terrarium and then she eats them. She stops eating after about 2 or 3 sometimes although I had read that juveniles are supposed to be eating 4-5. I started to get seriously worried today, when I saw hanging from the top of the terrarium and I saw this abnormal looking bump (see photo). I read that a sign of MBD is bone deformation and I could not think of what else that could be. Putting it all together Im thinking maybe she is showing signs of MBD. Even though she is eating and drinking and sits under the UVB all day I just want to get some input from all you guys who know much more than me. I read also that sign of MBD are shaking when walking etc, While I have seen her 'struggle a bit' I wouldnt call it shaky. When I was inspecting her today she had a very stable and strong grip on my finger and showed great strength. She only seems to shake with a certain limb when she has difficulty grabbing on something with that particular foot. I have posted a variety of photos below. I fear she might also maybe have fractures from falling. Could anyone help me out here please!
Thanks!
Arian
 

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i don't know enough to help, sorry.

but for sure the people that can help will want answers to all this, that you can answer...
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
 
ok thanks! the problem is above but for everything else:
Your Chameleon - Carpet Chameleon, Female, 5 Month old but ive had her for about a week.
Handling - I try to avoid it but i have been examine her body lately
Feeding - I feed her 4-5 medium/large crickets a day gutloaded with flukers and then sdusted with supplement 6 days a week, ca without d3 4 times a week, ca with d3 once a week and herpavite once a week. She only eats 3-4 a day though.
Supplements - ^^^
Watering - Drip system, from which i have seen her drink directly. I have a monsoon misting system which runs for about a minute 3-4 times a week.
Fecal Description - brown and white.
History - Have had her for a week soo thats all i got.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Exoterra 12x12x18. Im upgrading this asap. Cant use a reptibreeze since it would to hard to keep humidity and temp up.
Lighting - Im use a 5.0 UVB bulb, a 50w basking bulb and night heat lamp.
Temperature - The ambient temp seems to be aroud 75-85 degrees. Its cooler after misting and then gradually rises. The basking spot is in the 90s. Overnight temp is in the very low 70's.
Humidity - Around 85% at misting and it will very slow go down to the 30s right before the next miss. I use some exoterra hygrometer.
Plants - Maybe one day.
Placement - Not near a vent.
Location - Washington, DC
 
i noticed when i got my female panther, i was feeding her 4-5 large crickets + superworms every day. she NEVER moved around. she started to get chunky. i cut her feeding down to every other day and she looks alot better now and she moves around ALOT, probablly hunting but none the less shes moving around more.

seems like your feeding her alot and supplementing maybe to much ( i dont know anything about carpet chams tho.)

gl
 
HHmm maybe I should try that. She is moving but only climbing on the cage screen top... She also only eats when the crickets come up to her, but since a few do maybe she just does not feel the need.
Thanks!
 
You still need the proper ventilation no matter what, MESH CAGE!!! Get a higher powered heat bulb and mist more often if you kneed to!
 
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