Kale and oxalates

[oneillchameleons]

For those of us who are really into their gutload recipes, I was always under the impression that kale was only to be used sparingly for gutloading because of apparently high oxalate content (Oxalates bind to calcium and make it difficult to absorb) I live in Canada and find it difficult to find good greens year round, so I've always rotated dandelion greens and romaine as my staples greens with collard greens and kale once in a while. After doing some new research it seems that kale might be the BEST green to gutload with, with a perfect calcium to phosphorous ratio and based on this new research, one of the lowest oxalate content of any vegetable. I've included some links to the info, but would appreciate any input from the experts.

http://www.litholink.com/downloads/stone_lowoxalatediet.pdf

http://lowoxalateinfo.com/is-kale-low-oxalate/

PS please don't think this is all I gutload with. My feeder insects eat better than I do for the most part.

 

[bobcochran]

I'm wondering how boiling the Kale affects the vitamin and other nutrients?

 

[gotwqqd]

I'm wondering how boiling the Kale affects the vitamin and other nutrients?

If you need to cook, don't boil and wash out nutrients... Steam it.

Even then you destroy amino acids

 

[bobcochran]

If you need to cook, don't boil and wash out nutrients... Steam it.

Even then you destroy amino acids

The article stated to lower oxalates the Kale needs to be boiled and drained!
Not to much boiled Kale out there in the wild!!

 

[gotwqqd]

The article stated to lower oxalates the Kale needs to be boiled and drained!
Not to much boiled Kale out there in the wild!!

You asked what it does to other nutrients.

This boil is similar to boiling cabbage so you don't get gassy. Is kale in the same family as cabbage and cauliflower?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea

How about kohrabi?
Crunchy delicious without the issues of the green leafy ones.

 

[oneillchameleons]

The first article lists the oxalate level of various foods in there natural form, not boiled. According to this kale is extremely low in Oxalates, compared to most foods.

 

[bobcochran]

Tough to decide what's going on with those 2 articles, the second says you have to boil the first not??! Look at boiled green beans, can't figure it out. Be nice if they would standardize the testing methods so as to give a relative amount of oxalates.