Lighting Issues

Amy J

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I am about to get my first chameleon. I'm not positive whether to get a Jackson's or a Veiled (I seem to change my mind everyday), but right now I'm leaning toward a juvenille male Jackson. I've been doing so much research in the last few days that I feel very well-prepared. I even pointed out my concerns with the care of the chameleons in my local petstore today. I can't wait to get one. We just need to finish building the cage and setting things up.

My dad has been building a wooden cage with aluminum mesh siding with a 16" x 48" base and a height of 40". I know the dimensions are a little odd, but we're setting it up to fit on a former plant bench in our sun room. The sun room is surround by glass windows on one side and on the ceiling and can get very hot in the summer, so we plan to take the cage outside in a shady area during the summer months (I live in Pennsylvania if people were wondering). I feel like we have just about everything we need as far as supplies goes including three methods of hydration, several insect feeders in our backyard alone (we have a mulberry tree that silk worms congregate in and another tree that moths lay eggs in, etc.) as well as a cricket cage which we already use for our gecko, and have several non-toxic plants prepared. I can post a photo of the cage set-up in a few days when everything is done.

But the one thing I am still confused about is lighting. I think this is because the placement of our cage is a bit unusual. It is in a sunroom, so I don't believe we need a UV light. I guess I might need a basking light for cloudy days and for the colder months, but I am confused about what to get here. Can I just get a regular 40-60 watt bulb that I would put in a household lamp or is this a big no-no? Would florescent be better? Or do I need to get one at the petstore? I saw a 2.0, 5.0, and something else today, but they were all coiled UVBs. I think I heard that was bad...Yes so I'm a bit confused. I just don't understand lights at all. Please help.
 
I have been looking at both Jackson's and Veileds, but somehow I did not think about the fact that Veileds would be more suited to my sunroom temperatures. I still could have I Jackson's I think if I'm careful. Right now in the spring, the sunroom seems to be at about 85 F during the day, which is good for a Jackson's basking spot. Could I just make the majority of the cage very shady and moist to combat this or would I have to choose another area of the house if I want a Jackson's? I plan to place the cage outside in a shady spot once it gets a little bit warmer outside. Maybe I will go with a male veiled instead, but I am a bit worried because from what I've heard you never know what it's temperment is going to be. You've definitely given me something to think about...

As for humidity, we plan to have a waterfall with gravel at the bottom so the chameleon does not poop or drown in it which I plan to replace the water in atleast every two days. We have a dripper set-up and plan to mist the cage too. I will be monitoring the humidity closely and if it's still not humid enough, we may get a mister.

Thanks for the advice on lighting and everything else. :)
 
Oh I'm sorry. I meant 83 degrees, not 85, not that it makes much of a difference I guess...
 
As for humidity, we plan to have a waterfall with gravel at the bottom so the chameleon does not poop or drown in it which I plan to replace the water in atleast every two days.

No water fall. You do not want standing water. He will poop in it and bacteria will grow. Just stick to a dripper and misting.
 
No water fall. You do not want standing water. He will poop in it and bacteria will grow. Just stick to a dripper and misting.

Yes, but that's why I said that I plan to to completely fill up the bottom of the waterfall with large gravel and be sure to clean it out often -- no old, standing water, so that the chameleon doesn't poop in it and collect bacteria. I don't know if anyone has tried this. If I see that he still does poop in it, I can take it out.
 
I wouldn't go with a waterfall period. They are just plain bacteria breeding grounds, dangerous, and not needed. You will definitely need a UVB light-UVB does not go through glass so the sunroom windows have no benefit. Do not use coiled UVB lights-linear flourescent tubes as stated above are considered the best and the coiled compacts are considered dangerous. You can definitley use a standard household bulb in a clamp lamp for basking. I agree with Brad-a Veiled sounds much better for your situation, Jacksons need cooler spaces.
 
I feel like we have just about everything we need as far as supplies goes including three methods of hydration, several insect feeders in our backyard alone (we have a mulberry tree that silk worms congregate in and another tree that moths lay eggs in, etc.) as well as a cricket cage which we already use for our gecko, and have several non-toxic plants prepared. I can post a photo of the cage set-up in a few days when everything is done.

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I am not sure what "silkworms" you are referring to, but they won't be what most people are feeding chameleons and I am not sure if they are safe. I would do some research on that as well as on the moths.
 
I wouldn't go with a waterfall period. They are just plain bacteria breeding grounds, dangerous, and not needed. You will definitely need a UVB light-UVB does not go through glass so the sunroom windows have no benefit. Do not use coiled UVB lights-linear flourescent tubes as stated above are considered the best and the coiled compacts are considered dangerous. You can definitley use a standard household bulb in a clamp lamp for basking. I agree with Brad-a Veiled sounds much better for your situation, Jacksons need cooler spaces.

So does that mean I should have a linear florescent tube for UVB in addition to a basking lamp? Or just one? I will definitely reconsider the waterfall and the Jackson's.
 
I am not sure what "silkworms" you are referring to, but they won't be what most people are feeding chameleons and I am not sure if they are safe. I would do some research on that as well as on the moths.[/QUOTE]

I can post some pictures when the bugs are in season and see if people can identify them.
 
I had already read that one a few times actually. lol I also have a book on the differences between a few different types of chameleons, which I don't think is very good, but it has some good basics. I had researched both Jacksons' and Veileds so this isn't a huge change that now I'm getting a Veiled instead I just don't understand lights too well. The one thing I'm just a little worried about is that I don't want the male veiled I'm getting to have a nasty temper. I'm crossing my fingers that I end up with a nice one.
 
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