SauceGandhi
Avid Member
Jeremy can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he has stock to sell at the moment, unless you were talking about his care sheets. I'm like an hour away from you though, if you want to just pick some up lol.
Live locusts in USA
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Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
When I collect enough brood stock to take care of my chameleons then I could consider selling to you giving the circumstances. Then I could sell to you. I have got a wait list.
No as posted earlier I am in the processes of building my brood stock colonies for Schistocerca. I have got a medium breeding group of Schistocerca right now of Schistocerca nitens and shoshone. I am not selling any of these hoppers until most most of these hopper colonies are established.
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
cham_urchin
Established Member
Interesting thread ....please clarify in layman's terms the difference between locusts and grasshoppers...and are lubbers (which are on the Do Not Feed list) just a large variety of grasshopper?
We've got tons of wild hoppers here in CO that can leap over tall buildings in a single bound...I get pelted when I walk my dogs thru the fields...can I feed these?
We've got tons of wild hoppers here in CO that can leap over tall buildings in a single bound...I get pelted when I walk my dogs thru the fields...can I feed these?
Brodybreaux25
Chameleon Enthusiast
Most full sized Lubbers are too big to feed your chams anyway, on top of being toxic.
Locusts tend to have a smaller body than hoppers, their wings are also generally larger than a hoppers. Locusts fly a lot more than hoppers too. Hoppers tend to live more isolated lives while locust travel in groups searching for food or when threatened.
I feed my chams an almost exclusively wild caught diet spring to fall. Hoppers, mantids, moths, Dragon flies.... their abundance naturally rises and falls throughout the year so it makes feeding a variety of bugs easy. I can do this because I live in the middle of nowhere so I know there is no danger of contaminants. I also run a very aggressive parasite monitoring program just in case, to date I’ve never had an infection.
Yes, you can BUT I don’t recommend it to anyone. I’m sure someone will be along shortly screaming about parasites and pesticides and they are not wrong, it’s ultimately up to you to implement this kind of program safely.
Locusts tend to have a smaller body than hoppers, their wings are also generally larger than a hoppers. Locusts fly a lot more than hoppers too. Hoppers tend to live more isolated lives while locust travel in groups searching for food or when threatened.
I feed my chams an almost exclusively wild caught diet spring to fall. Hoppers, mantids, moths, Dragon flies.... their abundance naturally rises and falls throughout the year so it makes feeding a variety of bugs easy. I can do this because I live in the middle of nowhere so I know there is no danger of contaminants. I also run a very aggressive parasite monitoring program just in case, to date I’ve never had an infection.
Yes, you can BUT I don’t recommend it to anyone. I’m sure someone will be along shortly screaming about parasites and pesticides and they are not wrong, it’s ultimately up to you to implement this kind of program safely.
snitz427
Chameleon Enthusiast
^^ lucky!! I live right on the city line and pesticides, chemicals, rats, and general pollution are too much of a concern for me to feed WC insects... but I do try to catch them to breed. I need more katydids and grasshoppers, though... my problem is I find one or two from a variety of species, which in this case stinks because it makes it harder to find enough of the same species to breed.
SauceGandhi
Avid Member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust
Long story short, certain swarming species of grasshoppers are considered locusts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_locust_species
Lubbers are just a big slow, toxic grasshopper. Very easy to distinguish due to size, coloration, and slow clumsy movement.
Those sound like pallid-winged grasshoppers and they are completely safe, aside from the usual risks of feeding wc. They are gray and make kind of a buzzing sound when they fly, right?
Brodybreaux25
Chameleon Enthusiast
We won’t catch last night, and will again tonight. We were catching 50 leaf katydids an hour a month ago but they’ve all disappeared now and the mantid are out. Caught this large female on the way out. She helped herself to some of Roux’s hoppers this morning.
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snitz427
Chameleon Enthusiast
Oh no… I hope I haven’t missed my chance to catch more katydids!
Brodybreaux25
Chameleon Enthusiast
I just realized this is my old thread from years ago, to think we were actually trying to catch them in the daytime 100* heat back then. Learned so much since then....
snitz427
Chameleon Enthusiast
teach me your ways sensi! I was planning to go to a local grassland park around sunset to look for them. They’re closed after dark so i cant look super late
Brodybreaux25
Chameleon Enthusiast
Lol. Really needs to be at least 30 min after dark to do what we do.teach me your ways sensi! I was planning to go to a local grassland park around sunset to look for them. They’re closed after dark so i cant look super late
I use two techniques.
First is to just spot light them, they won’t run if you keep the light directly on them. Never put your hand between the light and the hopper. This breaks the trance their in and they will break away.
Second is a light trap, they tend to catch a lot more flying insects than anything else. All you need to do is hang up a white sheet and shine a black light on it. It will draw in any bugs close enough to see it.
cham_urchin
Established Member
right! and, thanks for the condensation of information
got the flu ATM so my brain is sorta lame.
cham_urchin
Established Member
she's gorgeous
Camiezone
Avid Member
You sell hoppers. I'm in cali
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
From time to time I sell Schistocerca hoppers. However I am not selling any of my stock right now.
Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich
Camiezone
Avid Member
Ok thanks for replying.
EnchantedScales
New Member
There's a guy on Facebook Khai Phan that breeds Schistocerca. I got mine from him and now breed enough to supplement my 30+ reptiles with another variety of feeders. These really do trigger the hunting instinct of even the pickiest eaters.
SauceGandhi
Avid Member
Looks like a really old thread but my new website is feedmychameleon.com
For grasshopper species I have Schistocerca nitens/lineata/shoshone, Melanoplus differentialis/bivittatus, along with katydids, etc.
For grasshopper species I have Schistocerca nitens/lineata/shoshone, Melanoplus differentialis/bivittatus, along with katydids, etc.
EnchantedScales
New Member
Are you able to ship across state lines? I know many people who would love to add hoppers to their feeding schedule for their herps, but nobody seems to really understand the USDA regulations and permitting on that.
SauceGandhi
Avid Member
Yeah I'll have to make a guide on that at some point. State rules are most important (e.g., keeping species native to your state). Melanoplus differentialis is a great species in this sense because USDA has removed all regulations on it.
