Locusts

[Veiled chameleons121]

does anyone feed their chameleon locusts cause i do, should i not feed them to my chameleon?????

 

[italian chameleon]

i do! it's one of the best feeders you could get, especially for adult chams.

 

[TreyLcham]

Do u know where I can buy some in the U.S. I really want to

 

[sandrachameleon]

they are a good choice, especially if gutloaded

you wont find this agricultural pest for sale commercially in the USA

but you can likely catch wild grasshoppers in season

 

[SaintJimmy]

Just look in some tall grass. When I was hoeing the garden, to make more space, I hoed out the tall, thin, wispy weeds and there were a couple living there. So Monty had a snack.

 

[RangoStar]

Watch for areas with pesticides too. Don't want to be feeding any poisoned locusts. Also, some have very big pincers/mandibles, and they can give quite a bite.

 

[italian chameleon]

they are a good choice, especially if gutloaded

you wont find this agricultural pest for sale commercially in the USA

but you can likely catch wild grasshoppers in season

same with hornworms here! no way you can find em! at least you have wild grasshoppers in the US, we don't have wild hownworms in Europe

 

[leedragon]

they are a good choice, especially if gutloaded

you wont find this agricultural pest for sale commercially in the USA

but you can likely catch wild grasshoppers in season

how do you gutload grashopers?

same with hornworms here! no way you can find em! at least you have wild grasshoppers in the US, we don't have wild hownworms in Europe

don´t we have those? are they illigal? I haven been looking for them but the place in france who sold it has shut down

 

[Veiled chameleons121]

i live in england sorry i dont know!!!

 

[Veiled chameleons121]

AHHHH Italiano io pure!!! pero vivo in Inghilterra. si vorrei comprare hornworms!!!!

 

[fluxlizard]

how do you gutload grashopers?

Feed them grass. They already come pre-gutloaded if you catch them wild with some of the best, all-natural gutload. Same stuff natural chameleon food is gutloaded with. LOL

 

[leedragon]

Feed them grass. They already come pre-gutloaded if you catch them wild with some of the best, all-natural gutload. Same stuff natural chameleon food is gutloaded with. LOL

haha yeah but I buy grashopers, I don´t catch them here, and gras doesn´t have that many nutrients, doesn´t it?

 

[fluxlizard]

gras doesn´t have that many nutrients, doesn´t it?

Has enough to grow huge animals like cows...

Sorry- I can't help you much with locust culturing from firsthand experience- but the stuff I've read seems to recommend grass clippings...

Bert Langerwerf once said that people feed their insects grains and then wonder why their lizards have eye problems. They take them to a vet and the vet says they have an infection. Bert was sure the reason they had the infection in the first place was because in nature insects eat lots of green leaves which are filled with carotinoids. While in captivity the insects lizards eat are fed grains.

 

[leedragon]

Has enough to grow huge animals like cows...

Sorry- I can't help you much with locust culturing from firsthand experience- but the stuff I've read seems to recommend grass clippings...

Bert Langerwerf once said that people feed their insects grains and then wonder why their lizards have eye problems. They take them to a vet and the vet says they have an infection. Bert was sure the reason they had the infection in the first place was because in nature insects eat lots of green leaves which are filled with carotinoids. While in captivity the insects lizards eat are fed grains.

never gutload with grains, cows get that way because the can get the nutrients out if it, and they do eat alot, but I don´t know if any nutrients at all will be pass från the hoper to the chameleon

 

[sandrachameleon]

grasshoppers eat all sorts of things - many of the same things crickets will eat. essentially they are herbivores, so offer things like dry or fresh growing or sprouting alfalfa, apple, romaine lettuce, dandelion leaves, squash, carrot, grasses, wheat, ground or sprouting millet, ...

note that Lubber grasshoppers should not be offered to your chameleon

 

[leedragon]

how come you should not feed Lubber grasshoppers?

 

[sandrachameleon]

According to the University of Florida Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, the bright color of Eastern lubbers "is a warning to predators that the lubber contains toxic substances" which have been known to kill birds and make small mammals violently ill. Chameleons are closer to birds than opossums. If their colouration fails to keep a predator away, a lubber can produce a phenolic secretion that consists of a number of phenolic and quinone compounds, some of which are irritants or toxins that deter predation

previous thread about lubbers:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/grasshopper-safe-feed-my-cham-60063/

 

[PoshPenny]

Is it necessary to rip off the hind legs? I read a article about the legs making small tears in chams throats, but then I also remember reading about super worms eating through stomachs and that's a myth. I try not to believe everything I read :/

 

[Veiled chameleons121]

Im not sure i also heard about that thing about super worms eating through stomachs

 

[leedragon]

According to the University of Florida Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences, the bright color of Eastern lubbers "is a warning to predators that the lubber contains toxic substances" which have been known to kill birds and make small mammals violently ill. Chameleons are closer to birds than opossums. If their colouration fails to keep a predator away, a lubber can produce a phenolic secretion that consists of a number of phenolic and quinone compounds, some of which are irritants or toxins that deter predation

previous thread about lubbers:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/grasshopper-safe-feed-my-cham-60063/

if I have it right, this species can be recognized by they never grow wings right?