Mazuri better bug gut loading diet food

jamest0o0 said:
@Nelius the problem is your advertising something that isn't even gutload. I doubt you'll be back here because I can tell you're a person that can't handle being corrected, but for anyone else that reads this. Know that it is garbage insect feed and does nothing beneficial for our reptiles. Gutloading is feeding nutritious foods to our feeders prior to feeding off. We do this to pass on the nutrients from the food, not just to keep the insects alive. Considering this stuff mentioned here is pretty much the opposite of nutritious and can have long lasting negative effects on our animals, it wouldn't be considered gutload.

I almost wonder if OP works for their company? Anyone with half a brain would at least be capable of receiving advice, instead he sticks by his "gutload" claims and mentions negative reviews. It's not a review, it's a fact.
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This isn't considered a negative comment ? To even go the extent that he may work for the company lol
 
lostinspace23 said:
Dont make up bs lies now. same as the other person saying hes advertising , like come on now, he is giving his opinion , not no advertising bs! Also I did not ignore youre opinion, I chose to continue on my path and look at different options on my own time and hear out way better advice. this is what i mean by this site is full of people stuck on a certain way and putting down everyone else who does not agree with there way. What you told me about repashy was about using it as a feeder and not a gut loader, so for one you probably did not know my situation , or what i was using it for , hence I moved on. so now that you wanna chirp in again your 2 cents, explain to me why repashy is a bad gut load ?
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What are you even talking about now? I have said nothing about the advertising stuff said above and I most definitely don't believe it to be true! Nothing I have said has anything to do with that. Secondly, of course I knew you were using Repashy as a gutload, what else would you use it for? My answer is the same. You gutload the bugs, then you feed off the bugs to your chameleon. Therefore, what you put into your bugs determines what goes into your chameleons' stomach. The reason repashy is no good is because the first two ingredients are corn and wheat products. You would never feed a chameleon corn or wheat, so why would you gutload with those as the core components? The whole idea of gutloading is to feed your insects within 12 hours of feeding them off, so not all the gutload gets digested (and is therefore readily available for your chameleon). You are choosing to allow your chameleon to ingest corn and wheat, which are neither healthy nor natural products for their stomach. As has been said many times before, cricket crack is an example of a gutload, which has actually healthful ingredients. Please feel free to enlighten me on the "way better advice" you received.

And don't play pretend, you know very well that your comments are accusatory, unkind, and soaked in a bad attitude.
 
You didnt say anything about advertising, I was mentioning the person who started the whole advertising and accusing him of working for the brand. unkind no, bad attitude no. fed up with reading rude accusing comments from the upper people who know the most yes. You gave me your two cents, and I went on and read and talked to other people for better advice , that is all. And at the end of the day you will heal the pros and cons about every product. some will say its good, some will say its horrible. Many have used repashy and never had issues, some have used cricket crack and have had problems. vise versa.
 
And I do agree with you, when it comes to repashy and cricket crack which one is a better gut loader, but some have used repashy and have never had any issues. But I completely understand what you are trying to tell me. And I will be switching over to cricket crack, but sometimes we need to get more opinions than one. now my question is should i use cricket crack to feed dubi roaches? or is that a bad choice?
 
lostinspace23 said:
You didnt say anything about advertising, I was mentioning the person who started the whole advertising and accusing him of working for the brand. unkind no, bad attitude no. fed up with reading rude accusing comments from the upper people who know the most yes. You gave me your two cents, and I went on and read and talked to other people for better advice , that is all. And at the end of the day you will heal the pros and cons about every product. some will say its good, some will say its horrible. Many have used repashy and never had issues, some have used cricket crack and have had problems. vise versa.
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Nothing we are saying is unreasonable and it is all backed up by facts. Please take a look at the nutrition information on this very forum: https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/food/. If you don't want to, I will post the most relevant quote below:

"Avoid These Ingredients:

Avoid these gutloading ingredients because they are low in calcium, high in phosphorus, goitrogens or oxalates: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates"

Corn and grains are ingredients to avoid. I am not stuck in my ways, I am just pointing out facts. If you have any information to argue that claim, feel free. I am not interested in arguing and I don't want to fight. I just want to disseminate good information that has been gather from decades of work done by people before us (y) I would also finally like to point out that, while true that people have used repashy without catastrophe, just because their chameleons lived does not mean they thrived! I just believe we have a responsibility to give them the best lives possible and, when presented with new information, it is sometimes wise to change our practices.
 
I apologize for anything anyone took offensive. lets get back to what the site was really for, and lets cut out the crappy remarks towards others .
 
Syreptyon said:
Nothing we are saying is unreasonable and it is all backed up by facts. Please take a look at the nutrition information on this very forum: https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/food/. If you don't want to, I will post the most relevant quote below:

"Avoid These Ingredients:

Avoid these gutloading ingredients because they are low in calcium, high in phosphorus, goitrogens or oxalates: potatoes, cabbage, iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, corn, grains, beans, oats, bread, cereal, meat, eggs, dog food, cat food, fish food, canned or dead insects, vertebrates"

Corn and grains are ingredients to avoid. I am not stuck in my ways, I am just pointing out facts. If you have any information to argue that claim, feel free. I am not interested in arguing and I don't want to fight. I just want to disseminate good information that has been gather from decades of work done by people before us (y) I would also finally like to point out that, while true that people have used repashy without catastrophe, just because their chameleons lived does not mean they thrived! I just believe we have a responsibility to give them the best lives possible and, when presented with new information, it is sometimes wise to change our practices.
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I completely agree with you, and yes after taking your opinion and doing more research cricket crack is way better of a gut loader and will be switching over , already have ordered cricket crack
 
First off corn and wheat are fillers, if you are to use grains use ancient grains like quinoa, amaranth etc to add safe protein additions to your gutload. My main "filler" is alfalfa which is a high protein, healthy, and nutrient rich food. Animal proteins do not cause the chameleon gout directly but when ingested by roaches and specifically tropical species they hold onto uric acid because it allows far too much protein to be easily absorbed at once. Which additional uric acid ingested from the roaches to the cham makes gout.
 
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