Mist king timer? or Canadian tire?

[Pieces]

Hey guys just wondering who out there uses the mist king seconds timer.
and is it worth spending the extra money for to order it and drag it accross the border up to canada or should i just use the one from canadian tire pretty much the same thing yeah?

which one should i get?
also i am picking up that starter kit marty if your looking

so which one guys? extra money or canadian tire

mist king seconds timer:
http://www.mistking.com/Seconds-Timer-p-16198.html

canadian tire seconds timer:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/p...9678475044&assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

 

[DaSlackMan]

Do you realize that MistKing is based in Canada?

 

[Vince]

I use the mist king seconds timer and love it. Never have i had any problems with it. I took a look at the other one you were talking about and by reading the features it sounds like it does everything that the mist king one does. But personally i think the mist king looks a lot more durable. Not that it will ever be put through much but i think it looks like better quality. Just my opinion...

 

[Marty]

Never have i had any problems with it.

and if you would I'd take care of it

I took a look at the other one you were talking about and by reading the features it sounds like it does everything that the mist king one does.

not quite. I was asked while back to write a chapter for a book about DartFrogs specifically about Misting Systems. I wrote a blurb about timers. Instead of summerizing it, I'll just post it here. Keep in mind that this is geared towards dartfrogs not chameleons. Running the system on per second basis and being able to run the system at various intervals at various times is a huge deal. Not sure if the same holds true for chameleon keepers. Nevertheless here it is


Timers

Connecting a misting system to a timer sounds very easy. Go to your local hardware store, purchase a digital timer and you’re done! Well not quite. We found out the hard way that digital timers available on the market have two major pitfalls that will eventually catch up with you.

One: The minimum cycle time is 1 minute. If you have a large enclosure with multiple nozzles then misting for one minute will add quite a bit of water to the environment. If the enclosure is drained, then this may not be such a big problem, but if your enclosure is not drained and you count on natural evaporation to take care of the excess water, then misting for 1 minute interval isn’t ideal. Other than adding 1 minute increments to your misting you do not have any options.

Two: the timer depends on watch style batteries that keep the time and also control the relay which turns the connected appliance ON and OFF. When these batteries are nearly drained, then the relay may or may not trigger and fail to turn the misting system on or off. Serious problems start when the timer does not turn the power off and allows the pump to run for hours, often draining the reservoir and possibly damaging the pump. Fortunately, our pumps are continuous duty pumps and can take the extra abuse.

What better timing solutions are available?

Repeat Cycle Timers (RCT) work by allowing you to set an “ON” cycle and an “OFF” cycle. For example, setting on cycle for 20 seconds and off cycle for 2 hrs will make the timer turn on the connected appliance (or misting system) for 20 seconds every 2 hrs. RCTs address the two pitfalls of the hardware store style digital timers. RCTs do not rely on watch style batteries and are therefore much safer. Misting cycles can now be less than 1 minute and are a much better alternative.

These timers have three annoyances of their own however.
One: The timer will cycle ‘forever’ and cannot be turned off, unless plugged into another timer. A bit redundant, but has been used by hobbyists successfully due to a lack of a better alternative.
Two: Cycle times are identical. Every time the RCT engages the same cycle will take place. In other words, misting time is exactly the same every time.
Three: Price! RCT cost about 4 times the price of a digital timer.

Repeat Cycle Timers are a far better alternative, but are not ideal solutions that hardly mimic naturally variable cycles.

We’ve perfected our misting system and it would be a shame to now downgrade its operation due to a weak timer. Once again, we needed to take matters into our own hands. We have partnered with a timer manufacturer and now offer a timer produced for MistKing.com that can have 8 timing cycle with a minimum cycle of 1 second. The timer does rely on a small watch style battery, but one that is rechargeable, greatly reducing or even eliminating problems associated with relay triggering. At last, it’s now possible to have your own, custom mist schedule. For example
• 45 second at 7 am to get the Vivarium re-hydrated from the night and to wake up the occupants with a refreshing morning shower,
• 20 seconds at 9am, 11:30am, 2:30pm, 4pm to maintain the humidity throughout the day.
• 1 minute 30 seconds at 5:30pm for a little afternoon drenching.
• Then 40 seconds at 8:30PM right before lights out to keep the enclosure nice and moist for the night.
Of course, depending on your level of ventilation, rate of evaporation and existence of drains, your misting schedule could be completely different. Also, whether you’re simulating the dry or wet season, the schedule would also be altered to suit the frogs better. Having a quality system, connected to an accommodating timer makes all the difference. This is practically impossible to accomplish with manual misting.

 

[Pieces]

no i didnt realize mist king is canadian... makes it even better i justseen the american prices... and marty you have done it again SOLD.... to the man in the green shirt... thanks guys...

 

[Pieces]

ohh and one other thing i use a solid enclosure with a plexy/screen front with sceen hole in side and bottom with the mist king will i need to make some sort of drainage or will it stay on the most part for the leaves..?

 

[NewOwner]

Nicely Said Marty.. I never knew you had products like that

I may have to buy one in the future... That sounds VERY Good!

-Levi

 

[Vince]

ohh and one other thing i use a solid enclosure with a plexy/screen front with sceen hole in side and bottom with the mist king will i need to make some sort of drainage or will it stay on the most part for the leaves..?

Unless you plan on running short cycles you will need some kind of drain. I have two nozzles and run mine three times a day, twice at 10 mins and one at 5 mins. I can gather a little over a gallon in my drain bucket. I run my cycles a little longer because i do not use a drip system for him to drink. He gets all his water via silk worms and mist.

 

[Obi Wan Ambilobe]

Hi Marty!

Really like the look of your products! Unfortunately I've only just heard about mistking and was unaware of it when I bought my super rain system a few months ago. I have to say I haven't had any problems with it as yet tho but we'll see how it goes!

My question being about the second timers u have for sale do u do a 240v UK version of them as i'd be intersted in one if possible?

Keep up the good work!

Thanks

Lee

 

[Marty]

Hi Lee, I will have complete systems and timers too for 230V. It will be the European plug though. In about 2 months everything should be available in Europe. Working on thigs right now.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Hi Pieces

I use that Nova timer (though not for a misting system) and it works well.

 

[rurdy]

Mist Timer

I found a great misting timer that times in seconds and works right off the hose tap. http://www.propagationtimer.com