michelenbrad04
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I have posted prior with all my veiled specs...she is eating...not as much as usual and I noticed tonight that her mouth looks different..is this mouth rot?
Mouth Rot?????
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erik775
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I have posted prior with all my veiled specs...she is eating...not as much as usual and I noticed tonight that her mouth looks different..is this mouth rot?
Can u post pics???
SaintJimmy
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I have posted prior with all my veiled specs...she is eating...not as much as usual and I noticed tonight that her mouth looks different..is this mouth rot?
Including pictures would help a little. See if you can get her to open her mouth then take a picture.
Also if her mouth looks green/brownish/grey/black inside, it is probably mouth rot.
michelenbrad04
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michelenbrad04
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The photo for some reason didn't post originally...I have added a photo of her now
The photo for some reason didn't post originally...I have added a photo of her now
michelenbrad04
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Is there anything I can do for her until I get her to a vet? I won't be able to get her to one until next week sometime. I feel so bad...this is our first chameleon...we had a water dragon prior. What causes mouth rot? We have only had her for a little over 2 months.
. What causes mouth rot? We have only had her for a little over 2 months.
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
Not that I am aware of. It is caused by some type of bacteria. It could be due to the environment you are housing her in. if you fill out this form we can try and help you pinpoint things that might be wrong https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/ Is that a hotrock your cham is sitting on? please post a pic of her enclosure
michelenbrad04
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Veiled, I believe female as no spur on back feet, have had her for 2 months. Not sure of age-bought at pet store
Handling - Never, unless cleaning cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? She eats crickets and meal worms What amount? lately only 1-2 crickets and 3 meal worms, was eating 5-6 crickets and 7-9 meal worms What is the schedule? every morning How are you gut-loading your feeders? we use flukers orange cubes and fresh fruit peelings for crickets
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? again we use flukers calcium and calcium vitamin d3 once a week
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? we have a humidifier, we mist at least 5 times a day, and always have an ice cube dripping.How often and how long to you mist? 5 times for a minute or two Do you see your chameleon drinking? yes
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? she has been pooping brown, some solid and some runny no testing of parasites.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. N/A
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? Glass, wood, and screen, 5 ft tall 3 feet wide and 2 1/2 ft depth
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? We have a blue day light 100 watt, a red light 75 watt, 10.0 repti-sun, 12 hours on 12 hours off. we do keep the red light on at night as we live in New England and it gets cold at night.
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? basking is 80-85, rest of cage is around 75-80 Lowest overnight temp? 70 How do you measure these temps? digital thermometers
Humidity - What are your humidity levels?40-50% How are you creating and maintaining these levels?misting What do you use to measure humidity? humidity gage
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? No all fake
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? No in our bedroom At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? 5 1/2 feet
Location - Where are you geographically located? New England
Your Chameleon - Veiled, I believe female as no spur on back feet, have had her for 2 months. Not sure of age-bought at pet store
Handling - Never, unless cleaning cage
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? She eats crickets and meal worms What amount? lately only 1-2 crickets and 3 meal worms, was eating 5-6 crickets and 7-9 meal worms What is the schedule? every morning How are you gut-loading your feeders? we use flukers orange cubes and fresh fruit peelings for crickets
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? again we use flukers calcium and calcium vitamin d3 once a week
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? we have a humidifier, we mist at least 5 times a day, and always have an ice cube dripping.How often and how long to you mist? 5 times for a minute or two Do you see your chameleon drinking? yes
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? she has been pooping brown, some solid and some runny no testing of parasites.
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. N/A
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions? Glass, wood, and screen, 5 ft tall 3 feet wide and 2 1/2 ft depth
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule? We have a blue day light 100 watt, a red light 75 watt, 10.0 repti-sun, 12 hours on 12 hours off. we do keep the red light on at night as we live in New England and it gets cold at night.
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? basking is 80-85, rest of cage is around 75-80 Lowest overnight temp? 70 How do you measure these temps? digital thermometers
Humidity - What are your humidity levels?40-50% How are you creating and maintaining these levels?misting What do you use to measure humidity? humidity gage
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind? No all fake
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? No in our bedroom At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? 5 1/2 feet
Location - Where are you geographically located? New England
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
A couple things that could use improving but nothing that jumps out that is that bad. Gutloading of your feeders...this is very important. We are what we eat, and same goes for our chameleons! Don't use the flukers. A healthy alternative would be oranges. Add a variety of dark leafy greens such as kale, mustard, collard greens..etc along with other fresh fruits and vegetables. Chameleons really don't like light at night so the red light is not necessary. If you require heat, get a ceramic heat emitter bulb. Unless your cage temps are dropping below 50 degrees no heat is really even necessary. Calcium without d3 every feeding, calcium with d3 twice a month and get a multivitamin. More variety of feeders...silkworms, and hornworms are a good alternative to meal worms. Runny poop on occasion is ok but not constantly. If that is the case, get her tested for parasites when you bring her into the vet. Get a fresh fecal if possible. You can collect the poop, put it in a Ziploc bag on a wet paper towel and store in the fridge until you get to the vet.
pssh
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What carol suggested is good advice.
Is the calcium with D3 flukers also? That brand has a lot of D3 and should only be given 1-2 times a month or so. You also need a multivitamin for 1-2 times a month. Also, the mealworms are fairly fatty to use that much (they should be more like a treat once or twice a week) and they have a lot of chitin (hard shell) which could cause impaction (blockage of the intestines) that could become fatal.
Does she always rest her belly on whatever is under her like that? If you can post more photos of her with her mouth actually open, we might be able to help a little more. Usually if you gently touch/hold the sides of the casque or just behind it, the chameleon will open its mouth. It does look like it could be mouth rot though.
Is the calcium with D3 flukers also? That brand has a lot of D3 and should only be given 1-2 times a month or so. You also need a multivitamin for 1-2 times a month. Also, the mealworms are fairly fatty to use that much (they should be more like a treat once or twice a week) and they have a lot of chitin (hard shell) which could cause impaction (blockage of the intestines) that could become fatal.
Does she always rest her belly on whatever is under her like that? If you can post more photos of her with her mouth actually open, we might be able to help a little more. Usually if you gently touch/hold the sides of the casque or just behind it, the chameleon will open its mouth. It does look like it could be mouth rot though.
michelenbrad04
New Member
That spot is her basking spot...she usually goes there to eat. I do not have the red light going anymore. I feel like since I turned off lights at night and added in a spot for egg laying she has progressively got worse. She did not have any mouth problems until recently and each day it progressively seems to get worse. Can't get her into the vets until next week.
