CamiGirl89
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I candled my 6 month old veiled eggs today, and their went from being a half-light half dark egg, to a fully dark egg... Do baby chameleons move in their eggs when it comes close to hatching time?
Movement in egg?
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CamiGirl89
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Hmm, well maybe I am just crazy! I wonder if anyone else has ever seen anything, though?
CamiGirl89
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Makes sense to me! I hope this little one lives... If it does hatch, it will be the only one in 41 eggs to make it. This clutch has been incredibly weak, and it has been heart-breaking. Especially since I have only vowed to breed Cami once, since I do not want to make her go through the egg-laying process more than she needs to. 6 months down, hopefully not much longer to go! If this one hatches, we are keeping it, so I am hoping that it does!
I have a clutch of 41 3 1/2 months in.. When did the rest go bad? Am I safe at this point?
CamiGirl89
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Mine went bad at about 4.5-5.5 months old. It could just be a weak clutch since it is the mother's first, and I could just be having some bad luck. Thank you, Miss Lilly, and best of luck to you, RicoRoxy! I won't try to breed Cami again due to her age (She is only 1.5 years, but I still worry with her getting a little older). But I might try again with another female in the future! 
I would love to experience chameleon babies at least once!
I would love to experience chameleon babies at least once!
chameleoman
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all of my eggs are practically dead
CamiGirl89
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It can be very frustrating and disappointing, but don't give up! First clutches can be hard, and first clutches for both you and Mom can be even harder.
breakinglass
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They don't turn or roll at the end of incubation. In fact they could drown if they are rolled. They don't need/have room inside the egg to move. Right around hatching the baby chams are in the fetal position. They simply move their head around to make slices in the shell with their egg tooth, then emerge/move through that opening.
breakinglass
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You're never safe from the eggs drying out or over heating. You must keep watch of these things til the end.
CamiGirl89
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We don't mean the egg turning and rolling, that is always a big "no no" We mean the fetus INSIDE the egg moving, which makes sense to me to be entirely possible. It would be hard for them to get out if they couldn't move!
We mean the fetus INSIDE the egg moving, which makes sense to me to be entirely possible. It would be hard for them to get out if they couldn't move! breakinglass
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Mine went bad at about 4.5-5.5 months old. It could just be a weak clutch since it is the mother's first, and I could just be having some bad luck. Thank you, Miss Lilly, and best of luck to you, RicoRoxy! I won't try to breed Cami again due to her age (She is only 1.5 years, but I still worry with her getting a little older). But I might try again with another female in the future!
I doubt it was a "weak" clutch. Especially if it was her first. I doubt it's "bad luck" either. They probably got too dry, overheated, or reading your other posts were rolled and not put back in the right position. You have to watch these things closely til they hatch. Next time try and keep them around mid 70's, definitely no higher than 80, weigh the incubating box with the eggs in it when you first make it. Then when you check the weight periodically you know how much water to replace to keep the original ratio. I don't know why you wouldn't breed her again she's in her prime at that age.
CamiGirl89
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It is my personal choice not to, I am trying to keep her from reproducing again as to be gentler on her body. The only thing I did "wrong" was not weighing the eggs at the beginning. I don't know what prior post you were reading, but I never rolled the eggs or put them back in the wrong position. They have been around 74 or 76 the whole time! Thank you for the advice, but I was only asking about the fetus moving. I have spoken with plenty of breeders both on forum and off forum about methods of hatching. Closet method for me after the winter was over Thank you anyway, though!
Thank you anyway, though!breakinglass
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We don't mean the egg turning and rolling, that is always a big "no no"
They don't move inside the egg. Read my previous post. They're in the fetal position inside the egg. The only "moving" they do inside the egg is with their head to notch a few slits with egg tooth. Then emerge through that opening.
CamiGirl89
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Yes thank you.
breakinglass
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It is my personal choice not to, I am trying to keep her from reproducing again as to be gentler on her body. The only thing I did "wrong" was not weighing the eggs at the beginning. I don't know what prior post you were reading, but I never rolled the eggs or put them back in the wrong position. They have been around 74 or 76 the whole time! Thank you for the advice, but I was only asking about the fetus moving. I have spoken with plenty of breeders both on forum and off forum about methods of hatching. Closet method for me after the winter was over
Never said you did anything wrong. I don't know why people always take offense? Her body can handle it no problem, if it's fed and housed correctly. I read the post about you candling the eggs many times throughout the incubation. Which led me to say they could've been rolled, as you may have not put them back in the same position. Read my previous posts about fetus movement inside the egg. It doesn't happen.
CamiGirl89
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Goodness you are a grumpy one indeed! I know her body could handle it, but clutches are known to be hard on chameleons regardless. I do not want to breed her again, that is my choice regardless of your suggestions. I had 3 eggs of my clutch of 41 that I would pick up to candle within the first 3 months. This helped me try to identify whether or not the clutch was fertile, and also helped me see their development. I don't think this affected all of the other eggs, since they were not lifted from their boxes. Also, candling with a lead pen-light (like what nurses have) is not something that bothers the eggs so long as you don't do it daily time after time. I do not think any of this has anything to account for the numerous loss of eggs. Why people like me are so offended by people like you is because you are rude. We do not know who you are, your level of experience, and do not expect to hear alot out of your experience since you have been a member here for a month. When your name is a little more established, we feel a little more comfortable taking criticism from you. So there is your explanation. Thank you, goodbye!
breakinglass
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Where do you get I'm being rude?? I'm starting to get grumpy because I'm trying to offer help and you keep blowing me off and saying i'm rude because I've only been a member here for a month. Don't let the numbers fool ya honey, i've been breeding chameleons for a little over 12 years. Have fun ruining your next clutch of eggs!
