My chameleon keep one eye closed

RobertSopko

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Hello, last week my cham used to close his right eye in the afternoon, sa far he hasnt done it and everything is fine in the morning. Can you advice me what it could be? thanks
 

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Is his eye still sucked in? If you could fill out this husbandry form with as much detail as possible, including any more pics you have of him and a pic of his entire cage, lights to bottom, we can help make sure his husbandry is in tip top shape!

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Hi,

no his eye is not still sucked in, he keeps it closed as if he were resting.

Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Furcifer pardalis, male, 2 years and I have it since 6 months
  • Handling - every day, he climbs on the hand on outdoor plants climbs on the hand by itself
  • Feeding - only crickets, 2-3 every day, hydrogel and mixture for crickets
  • Supplements - (arcadia system) A,A,A,C,A,A,A,D3 every day i keep this system but only one cricket is covered with suplement
  • Watering - manualy droping every morning, sprinkling directly on the leaves and he is drinking directly, morning and evening after the warm light, Do you see your chameleon drinking? yes
  • Fecal Description - normal, white with brown. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? yes as 6 months and
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. yes look down

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - combo, Terrarium size 60x45x90
  • Lighting - Temperatures (bulb 50W) under heat during the day 29-30 °C and from 9:00 till 15:00 , Arcadia jungle Dawn LED bar from 06:00 till 17:30 , UVB Arcadia PRO T5 UVB 6% 24w from 06:00 till 17:30.
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? 29, Lowest overnight temp? 23,How do you measure these temps? thermometer
  • Humidity - Humidity during the day aprox. 35-40% during the night 60%.
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? yes, If so, what kind? phikus benjamina, sheflera
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? no At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? 1,6 meter
  • Location - Where are you geographically located? Slovakia
I have written one post on Jan 24, 2024 cause he had a problem with tongue. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/tongue-issue.192052/
After this i have changed the UVB and i putted it directly on the cache. Could it be too low and bother him? Anyway, since January his tongue has improved and he shoots normally.
 
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Are you misting the cage at all to give him the opportunity to clean out his eyes?
no, cause we can not get a temperature under 20 Celsium at night. Therefore we dont use a mist. We just spray a watter every evening before the sleeping time.
 
no, cause we can not get a temperature under 20 Celsium at night. Therefore we dont use a mist. We just spray a watter every evening before the sleeping time.
So I am speaking to misting the cage during the day not fogging at night. And what I mean by this is a good 2-4 minute misting morning right after lights kick on and in the evening a few hours before lights kick off. Not only does this give an opportunity to drink but an auto misting system like a mistking produces a very fine mist that sprays all over the cage and allows them the ability to go directly in the mist and they will clean their eye turrets. I am willing to bet he has something stuck in the eye but with you not misting the cage and giving him the moisture he needs to rotate the turrets and clear the debris it is just causing further irritation. So where you end up is a chameleon that has something causing irritation. They pull the turret in and constantly close the eye because it is uncomfortable. In the end if they are not able to clear it you can see issues of infection and damage to the eye depending on what it is.

  • Feeding - only crickets, 2-3 every day, hydrogel and mixture for crickets
  • Supplements - (arcadia system) A,A,A,C,A,A,A,D3 every day i keep this system but only one cricket is covered with suplement
This is incorrect. He should be getting 3-5 feeders every other day. And to supplement correctly you have to lightly dust every insect that day. Arcadia is a very specific feeding system done in an 8 feeding cycle so you have to put it down on a calendar especially when you switch to every other day feeding. We supplement yes to give additional vitamins but also to balance the phosphorus level of the insect. This is why you have to dust them all. See rotation below... But I see you are using EP-A, CalMg, and EP-CA. What multivitamin have you added for vitamin A and D3? None of what you have in your rotation include these fat soluble vitamins.

This is the exact rotation they recommend.

EP-A 1st feeding
EP-A 2nd feeding
EP-A 3rd feeding
Calmg 4th feeding
EP-A 5th feeding
EP-A 6th feeding
EP-A 7th feeding
Revitalize D3 8th feeding
Cycle starts again from the beginning.

Arcadia revitalize is your multivitamin. It has very low levels of D3 and A so you have to ensure that UVB is spot on.
 
So I am speaking to misting the cage during the day not fogging at night. And what I mean by this is a good 2-4 minute misting morning right after lights kick on and in the evening a few hours before lights kick off. Not only does this give an opportunity to drink but an auto misting system like a mistking produces a very fine mist that sprays all over the cage and allows them the ability to go directly in the mist and they will clean their eye turrets. I am willing to bet he has something stuck in the eye but with you not misting the cage and giving him the moisture he needs to rotate the turrets and clear the debris it is just causing further irritation. So where you end up is a chameleon that has something causing irritation. They pull the turret in and constantly close the eye because it is uncomfortable. In the end if they are not able to clear it you can see issues of infection and damage to the eye depending on what it is.


This is incorrect. He should be getting 3-5 feeders every other day. And to supplement correctly you have to lightly dust every insect that day. Arcadia is a very specific feeding system done in an 8 feeding cycle so you have to put it down on a calendar especially when you switch to every other day feeding. We supplement yes to give additional vitamins but also to balance the phosphorus level of the insect. This is why you have to dust them all. See rotation below... But I see you are using EP-A, CalMg, and EP-CA. What multivitamin have you added for vitamin A and D3? None of what you have in your rotation include these fat soluble vitamins.

This is the exact rotation they recommend.

EP-A 1st feeding
EP-A 2nd feeding
EP-A 3rd feeding
Calmg 4th feeding
EP-A 5th feeding
EP-A 6th feeding
EP-A 7th feeding
Revitalize D3 8th feeding
Cycle starts again from the beginning.

Arcadia revitalize is your multivitamin. It has very low levels of D3 and A so you have to ensure that UVB is spot on.
Hello , thanks for your answer. Sure we have also revitalise D3 and we are using it as describe. I forgot add a photo.
 

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So yes your rotation is correct with their 8 feed cycle. Just make sure you start dusting all insects given that day. :)
 
You got a cutie there! I think Bemans give is spot on about misting the whole cage. Your boys eyelids have pronounced openings which will lead too molting the entire eye at once impossible. This will be a repeat issue if you don’t figure it out. He closes his eye because it’s very hard to keep it open all the time when it feels like something is in it and scratching it. In the first pic he is moving the eye ball around to try to get whatever it is out of his field of vision or to the side so it won’t hurt anymore. The recommendation of flushing with saline for this episode is good but I would like to add that I use saline for ultra sensitive eyes. It has less salt in it and is better for all eyes. Good luck to you. I hope you get this figured out before an eye infection sets in cause dealing with that is vet only and I have spent a fortune thru the years.
 
You got a cutie there! I think Bemans give is spot on about misting the whole cage. Your boys eyelids have pronounced openings which will lead too molting the entire eye at once impossible. This will be a repeat issue if you don’t figure it out. He closes his eye because it’s very hard to keep it open all the time when it feels like something is in it and scratching it. In the first pic he is moving the eye ball around to try to get whatever it is out of his field of vision or to the side so it won’t hurt anymore. The recommendation of flushing with saline for this episode is good but I would like to add that I use saline for ultra sensitive eyes. It has less salt in it and is better for all eyes. Good luck to you. I hope you get this figured out before an eye infection sets in cause dealing with that is vet only and I have spent a fortune thru the years.
yes he (Albert) he's a real sweetheart, he never pisses on us. Regarding saline for ultra sensitive eyes, should I find something special or is it the same as for humans? How should I apply it to him? Thanks
 
Hello together, I found this in my local pharmacy. It contains following: karbetopendeciniumbromid 2mg, Boricacid 190 mg, borax 5mg, in 10ml. How often can I put in the eye?
 
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