My Chameleon really likes Superworms/Giant Mealworms

jdub0928

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Hi,

My 21 month old Panther Chameleon (Mo) really REALLY likes Superworms/Giant Mealworms. I have been trying to feed him a variety of different foods, but he refuses to eat most of them. HE ABSOLUTELY WONT EAT CRICKETS. I end up having to let them loose eventually because he wants nothing to do with them. I have tried not feeding him for a while in an attempt to get him to eat crickets, but he just won't.
I can get him to eat the occasional Earthworm or Dubai Roach. I'd like to get him some Silkworms but can't find them at any of the local pet stores I've tried (I live in West Lost Angeles for the time being). I know that Superworms aren't supposed to be a staple food but like I said he is really picky and they are usually the only thing I can get him to eat. Is there any way to make Superworms more nutritious? What is a good thing to gutload them with? And can they be dusted with calcium?



I handle him maybe once a week at most. He gets misted two to three times a day, I use a spray bottle to get the leaves in his cage wet, and he also has a dripper that runs all the time.

I have a screen cage. For lighting I have a ReptiSun 5.0 tube light, a 60W white basking bulb, and a ceramic heater. The tube fluorescent is on for 12 hours a day, and I leave the ceramic heater on for the same amount of time (unless it is a cold night).
His cage is usually around 85 during the day and 70 at night. To measure the temperature I have a digital thermometer at the basking area and another one lower in the cage to make sure and get the range of temperatures.

There is an umbrella plant and ficus in his enclosure, with a few sticks so he can get around easier. I use a paper towels as a substrate. The cage itself is 2'x2'x4' (4' tall).
 
Superworms really aren't a "bad" staple. There are quite a few members around here that use them as a staple. I use them for my bearded dragon, but not the chams. The only reason for that is because all of the chams love crix, hornworms, supers, etc....

The one important thing is to make sure that you are actually using superworms and not mealworms. They are a completely different creature.

as a matter of fact, if you give it to them, they will eat it. My panther, Odie went through a little bit of a food strike a couple of months ago where we wouldn't eat crix, but he got over that after a short while.

As for gutloading supers, its easy! Give it to them, and they will eat it. Leafy greens, carrots, fruit, etc...any good gutload can be used quite effectively.
 
Google exotic pet store and call and ask around for silk worms, big pet stores like petco or petsmart normal dont have silk worms.
Super worms are really but the have no real nutritional value, and theyre kind fatty.
Are you gut loading the superworms? If not you should.
Also stop witht he giant meanworms, that sounds like a crap load of chitin which could impacted your cham.
Superworms are easier on him than giantmeal worm shells are.
And super worms CAN be dusted.
 
How long did you let him go hungry before offering other food? Something like 2-3 days will probably not be enough.
 
Superworms really aren't a "bad" staple. There are quite a few members around here that use them as a staple. I use them for my bearded dragon, but not the chams. The only reason for that is because all of the chams love crix, hornworms, supers, etc....

The one important thing is to make sure that you are actually using superworms and not mealworms. They are a completely different creature.

as a matter of fact, if you give it to them, they will eat it. My panther, Odie went through a little bit of a food strike a couple of months ago where we wouldn't eat crix, but he got over that after a short while.

As for gutloading supers, its easy! Give it to them, and they will eat it. Leafy greens, carrots, fruit, etc...any good gutload can be used quite effectively.

Thanks for your responses!


I was getting giant mealworms when I first got him, but then moved over to supers..i just put them together because he doesn't seem to know the difference and is fast to catch either when I put them in his enclosure. I have been gutloading with carrots and kale too. I was mostly concerned about Mo not getting enough Calcium though.
 
I have had a cham with a superworm habit. I had trouble not giving in.:(:(:( I had to let him go for 5 days until he gave in and ate crickets. Made me feel like a bad cham mom.

You can order silkworms from costal silkworms. It is in calif. But I would try Mulberry farms, one of our sponsors, then you cage get silkies & horn worms. Just made sure you don't get large horn worms as they about 4" long.

When you feed superworms dust them the same way you would dust crickets.
 
Wait until he gives in! lol Basically. If it takes him a week, then let him go hungry a week, but it's not good for him to be on a single food source forever. It's like if your kid only wanted to eat chicken tenders forever, it's just not good for him. If he's healthy, not eating a few days is not going to hurt him, so don't stress over it. Especially since he's completely full grown, it's not a problem.

I know it's tough, but if you can just entice him with other tasty treats then it's the only way to get him hungry enough to try different things. I've had to do it with my geckos before, to get them onto a healthier diet. I had one that didn't eat for 2 weeks! But when she started up the new diet, she realized she loved it, and always ate the most out of all of them.
 
make sure you gutload well (not just carrot and kale)

Superworms are fatty, and therefore do not make a good staple feeder. Your chameleon WILL eat crickets, if offered no other choice. An adult chameleon can easily go two weeks without eating, if stubborn, but it WILL eat the crickets or whatever is offered if it truly gets hungry. By not offering superworms and mealworms but instead offering crickets or other choices you are not starving the chameleon, you are just not giving it the fatty food it craves. it will eat other insects if you dont give in first.

You can find a variety of bugs online if your local shops dont carry much

Canada
www.canadianfeeders.ca
www.feederfactory.ca
www.westcoastdragons.ca/FeederPriceList.html

www.bcbugs.com
www.trinitychameleons.com
www.bugorder.com
www.recorpinc.com/index.html
www.portcreditpets.com/feeders.html
www.scaryguysexoticpets.com/feeders.html

UK
http://www.butterworms.co.uk
http://www.roachshop.co.uk/
www.livefoodsdirect.co.uk
http://www.silkwormstore.co.uk/

USA
http://www.stflies.com/
http://www.mulberryfarms.com/
http://www.nilesbio.com/prod95.html
http://www.greatlakeshornworm.com/
http://coastalsilkworms.com
http://www.forkedtreeranch.com
http://www.ghann.com/
http://www.carolina.com/category/living+organisms/animals.do?sortby=ourPicks
www.joshsfrogs.com
www.theroachranch.com
http://doubleds.org/index.html

and dont forget to check the site sponsors and the classfieds on this forum :) https://www.chameleonforums.com/miscellaneous-sale/
 
My 4 month old ambanja is on a superworm spree as well, I am not offering supers right now and I'm keeping crickets in a feeding cup.. I think he hasn't ate in about 2 days, I may try to offer him some dubias again tomorrow.
 
Dusting

Yeah dusting is a tricky one because of the texture of their exo skeleton. What I do for my Cuban is mist the superworms slightly, then dust and shake them until you have an adequate amount of vitamin powder on them. Also you could take a couple superworms, put them in seperate containers, no food nothing. And wait untill they pupate and depending on the size of your chameleon you can feed it as a pupae, or wait till it is a beetle. In these stages they are slightly more nutritious and can be dusted. And if you let the beetles lay eggs in a container, you will have over 100 superworms per beetle per month!:D
 
Also curious about how you are offering the crickets? If you normally feed supers in a cup and free roam the crickets, try the crickets in the cup. Or vice versa - if you normally cup the crickets and he won't go for them, try letting them crawl on the screen, maybe the motion will perk his interest.
(my guy doesn't like crickets from a cup)
 
Superworms really aren't a "bad" staple. There are quite a few members around here that use them as a staple. I use them for my bearded dragon, but not the chams. The only reason for that is because all of the chams love crix, hornworms, supers, etc....

The one important thing is to make sure that you are actually using superworms and not mealworms. They are a completely different creature.

as a matter of fact, if you give it to them, they will eat it. My panther, Odie went through a little bit of a food strike a couple of months ago where we wouldn't eat crix, but he got over that after a short while.

As for gutloading supers, its easy! Give it to them, and they will eat it. Leafy greens, carrots, fruit, etc...any good gutload can be used quite effectively.

I agree Supers can certainly eat and FAST lol!!!
 
Im just north of you and I ordered from Coastal Silkworms as a referral from here after I didn't get any response from Mulberry(repeated attempts).
Claire @ Coastal was terrific, my silks arrived well fed and a day early!
They are in San Diego and great customer service
 
Both are high in fat and not good choices for Panthers. Switch to silkworms and hornworms much better nutrition wise.
 
make sure you gutload well (not just carrot and kale)

Superworms are fatty, and therefore do not make a good staple feeder. Your chameleon WILL eat crickets, if offered no other choice. An adult chameleon can easily go two weeks without eating, if stubborn, but it WILL eat the crickets or whatever is offered if it truly gets hungry. By not offering superworms and mealworms but instead offering crickets or other choices you are not starving the chameleon, you are just not giving it the fatty food it craves. it will eat other insects if you dont give in first.

You can find a variety of bugs online if your local shops dont carry much

Canada
www.canadianfeeders.ca
www.feederfactory.ca
www.westcoastdragons.ca/FeederPriceList.html

www.bcbugs.com
www.trinitychameleons.com
www.bugorder.com
www.recorpinc.com/index.html
www.portcreditpets.com/feeders.html
www.scaryguysexoticpets.com/feeders.html

UK
http://www.butterworms.co.uk
http://www.roachshop.co.uk/
www.livefoodsdirect.co.uk
http://www.silkwormstore.co.uk/

USA
http://www.stflies.com/
http://www.mulberryfarms.com/
http://www.nilesbio.com/prod95.html
http://www.greatlakeshornworm.com/
http://coastalsilkworms.com
http://www.forkedtreeranch.com
http://www.ghann.com/
http://www.carolina.com/category/living+organisms/animals.do?sortby=ourPicks
www.joshsfrogs.com
www.theroachranch.com
http://doubleds.org/index.html

and dont forget to check the site sponsors and the classfieds on this forum :) https://www.chameleonforums.com/miscellaneous-sale/

This was honestly the most helpful post/reply I have found since searching this site!!! THANK YOU! I find it so hard to find non-sketchy sources for reptile stuff in Canada! It's sad that some of those links are no longer live or are inactive though! But thanks again!! <3
 
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