My chameleon sucks at hunting?

Jen0413

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My husband and I just got a little 3 month old veiled chameleon this past weekend. His name is Espio (like from the Sonic video game-my husband named him.) We've had him for about 4 days now and have tried feeding him crickets and mealworms. He refuses to eat the mealworms at all. He does eat crickets, but he seems to be really bad hunting them. I've seen him eat a couple over the days, but I feel like most of them just hide down at the bottom. Espio spends most of his time chillin on his fake leaves by his dripper or by his basking light, so I don't know if he even sees the crickets hopping around the bottom.

I've seen him drink water once. I see all these posts about checking the urate in poop to make sure he's hydrated, but I haven't found any poop in his terrarium yet. Is it pretty obvious when he poops, as in will it be big enough for me to notice when I'm misting his cage and emptying the drip bowl that catches extra water.

Is it possible that Espio is just bad at hunting? The couple of times he has caught a cricket, the thing has basically been right in front of his face. I've never seen him go on an all out hunt. It's hard to tell how many crickets he's eating and how many are just hiding around the terrarium. How do I help him get the hang of hunting?? I want him to be a happy, well fed chameleon.


Side note- Espio might be a girl. I really can't tell.
Lets see if I can remember all the info I'm supposed to post with this.
He's in a well ventilated glass terrarium. 18 X 18 X24.
He has the Little Dripper dripping system that I run most of the day.
I mist his cage about 3 times a day. We live in Colorado- water leaves the air quickly.
Humidity is normally around 60. Temp in basking area is normally around 85ish and 75ish in the rest of the terrarium.
He has a UVB light and a basking light.
The people at the store said he's around 3 months old. But they also told me he would only eat about 10 crickets a week. People on here say theirs eat that in a day. I've been trying to give him about 10 crickets a day, but he doesn't seem that interested and most of them seem to hide from him. I try to catch the ones I find and he's not eating so that they don't bother him. I feed him around 6 am before I go to work, it's also when I turn on his lights. He has them on for at least 12 hours every day.

Thanks for your help!
 
4 days isn't that long. He is probably still getting used to his new environment. Try cup feeding. Put a small cup by his basking spot with his feeders in it. Once he's used to his new surroundings he may start to hunt. Untill then I would cup feed. It allows you to monitor how much he is eatin and keeps the feeders from roaming in his cage at night. Also be sure that you are gut loading and dusting your feeders.
 
Check the back of his back heel. If there is a little bump, called a tarsal spur, it is a male. If the heel is flat, it is a female. If your are not sure, post a picture a picture of your set up would be helpful also so we can make sure everything is right.
 
What size crickets are you feeding him? I got my Cham when he was 3 months old and he ate 3/8 crickets. If he's eating larger ones, that would make sense as to why he's not eating as much as he should. I second the picture of the set up.
 
Boy or girl

Check the back of his back heel. If there is a little bump, called a tarsal spur, it is a male. If the heel is flat, it is a female. If your are not sure, post a picture a picture of your set up would be helpful also so we can make sure everything is right.

Hey guys, well he pooped twice today- so I guess he's managing to eat something. I was worried he was going to be dehydrated because I've only seen him try to drink water once, but his urate (sp?) was white so he's ok right?

This is a picture of him/her the first day we got him. I also have an upclose picture of the back foot. I don't see a spur, so I'm guessing he is really a she? What do you think??
 

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Male for sure.. The spur description I think puts people off.. a Lump or bump would be a better term :)

Second the cup feeding some people like it hate it, with a baby I think it is not a bad Idea.. put it below near his basking spot.. Also easier to see what he eats.. Roaming crickets can cause problems, but they loose their supplements dusting kind of quick, also start to loose their gut loading.. I out fine shredded veggies in mine to, keeps the crickets in better, but also the cham gets at least a few pieces as a side effect when catching bugs :)


Keep a little dish of shredded carrot at least in the bottom of the cage to give the bugs something to eat.. or some cricket food/fresh greens.. bug burger works well too..

With a baby make sure you check and even ask about the supplement shed.. :)
 
It is a boy , my veiled had almost no indication of a spur or bump until about 5 months and after his second shed , i can clearly see the bump in that photo , keep the crickets small as they get put off by anything too big , try blue bottle fly larvae from mantidpets they really seem to like stuff that flys and moves alot. I guess it's because as little ones fruit flys were the main staple. The feeding gets easier as he grows and will accept more stuff, keep trying ,never give up on the worms, they are a great back up plan and so much easier to maintain than the crickets. My veiled prefers the superworms over the mealies, and they are probably the easiest and longest lasting feeder,except maybe Dubia which require a little more committment and maintenance. Congratulations ,he looks great.
 
Keep a little dish of shredded carrot at least in the bottom of the cage to give the bugs something to eat.. or some cricket food/fresh greens.. bug burger works well too..

Excellent suggestion, regardless of the age of your cham. A very good way to prevent feeders from feeding on your cham.
Crickets are active at night, while chams are sleeping and they often won't awaken despite being chewed on.

Welcome to the forum Jen0413 !

You will find a great deal of very useful info if you read the Veiled caresheet that the forum administrators put together. The other sections within the Resources area also contain quite a bit of useful info..
Here's a link https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/caresheets/veiled/
 
As long as the urate is white, he is hydrated. It is not uncommon to never see veileds drink.
 
Excellent suggestion, regardless of the age of your cham. A very good way to prevent feeders from feeding on your cham.
Crickets are active at night, while chams are sleeping and they often won't awaken despite being chewed on.

Welcome to the forum Jen0413 !

You will find a great deal of very useful info if you read the Veiled caresheet that the forum administrators put together. The other sections within the Resources area also contain quite a bit of useful info..
Here's a link https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/caresheets/veiled/



Thanks guys!! I appreciate the help!
 
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