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Thanks!!! Im fairly new to this forum. But kept jacksons,panthers,etc... along time ago when all you could get was wild caught specimens. Had them for a few years but then got into freshwater fish mainly fancy plecos and have done that for almost 6 years maybe more. I sell some stuff on aquabid.com and also plecofanatics.com(no longer running). But several months ago I decided to take my 2 sons to the reptile convention here in san diego. Next thing I know Im walking out with a pair of veiled chameleons!!! Man, I forgot how addicting keeping chamelons is!!!