my new chams!
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Chamlover96
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I dont think so. I will measure him in a couple days. I dont want to disturb him
Chamlover96
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sooooo. i just took them out and they are fast little buggers. i couldnt measure them and i am going to the store to get some crix for them now. i need to find my usb cable!!!
HUBSonDUBS
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Jims chams are always big, its that Florida sun.
Chamlover96
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Yeah. The 2.5 month old male is only about 2 inches smaller than the 7 month old female. The male is a little aggressive though. He puffed out his throat and was hissing at me. He has such a big appetite though. He ate 5 crickets yesterday but the female only ate two. They were a little oversized though. It so funny too because he stands up ontwo legs and shoots his tongue. He scared me one time because i was trying to ge the female to eat and a tongue comes out of nowhere
Chameleon Company
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LOL .... Haven't posted in a while. Thanks for the kind words. Just to add. The female was born early winter, and as we had a severe winter for Florida, her early growth was slow. The male, however, has known nothing but the best of Florida heat and sunshine. We can grow males to 8 inches in 10-12 weeks under prime conditions.
As for housing together. If one had animals that had been housed seperately prior, or imports, you are correct that they should not be housed with another panther, male or female. But in captivity, many of us house several siblings together as we raise them after hatching. So long as kept with other chameleons, they will be compatible with cage-mates to an overwhelmingly greater extent than expected. It is cheating Mother Nature a bit, and we do advise separating them before they reach breeding size, but things are not as some forum tales think. FYI, one can raise two males together, and they will be bosom buddies for so long as they remain together, to include until old age death by natural causes. I don't recommend it, but thats the fact.
We thank all who have helped us pay our bills !
As for housing together. If one had animals that had been housed seperately prior, or imports, you are correct that they should not be housed with another panther, male or female. But in captivity, many of us house several siblings together as we raise them after hatching. So long as kept with other chameleons, they will be compatible with cage-mates to an overwhelmingly greater extent than expected. It is cheating Mother Nature a bit, and we do advise separating them before they reach breeding size, but things are not as some forum tales think. FYI, one can raise two males together, and they will be bosom buddies for so long as they remain together, to include until old age death by natural causes. I don't recommend it, but thats the fact.
We thank all who have helped us pay our bills !
Chameleon Company
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To add a bit more. Don't want to confuse anyone. If given lots of good food, lots of water, lots of sunshine, and warm temps, female panthers will reach breeding size before six months, and males at about 7-8 months. Colder temps, shorter days, artificial lighting, and other shortfalls, and those times can double. Even though we are south-central Florida, we see seasonal growth fluctuations here just as predictable as the sky is blue. This last winter was way beyond the usual pale for us though. But to compare an animas raised in the Florida sun under optimal spring-summer conditions is night-and-day different from other scenarios, and especially from animals raised indoors anywhere. Thanks.
jamncristian
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LOL .... Haven't posted in a while. Thanks for the kind words. Just to add. The female was born early winter, and as we had a severe winter for Florida, her early growth was slow. The male, however, has known nothing but the best of Florida heat and sunshine. We can grow males to 8 inches in 10-12 weeks under prime conditions.
As for housing together. If one had animals that had been housed seperately prior, or imports, you are correct that they should not be housed with another panther, male or female. But in captivity, many of us house several siblings together as we raise them after hatching. So long as kept with other chameleons, they will be compatible with cage-mates to an overwhelmingly greater extent than expected. It is cheating Mother Nature a bit, and we do advise separating them before they reach breeding size, but things are not as some forum tales think. FYI, one can raise two males together, and they will be bosom buddies for so long as they remain together, to include until old age death by natural causes. I don't recommend it, but thats the fact.
We thank all who have helped us pay our bills !
thats CRAZY!!
where did you hear that?!?
thats really interesting
Chameleon Company
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thats CRAZY!!
where did you hear that?!?
thats really interesting
LOL ... I didn' "hear" it. I've observed it hundreds of times, if not thousands ! Sorry to put it this way, but we don't "hear" such from others. We are the one's that tell them.
As Walter Brennan would have said: "Not braggin. Just fact".
jamncristian
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wow........ that put me speechless
I am not going to try this but that is pretty cool
I am not going to try this but that is pretty cool
Chameleon Company
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To be quite clear, they have to be animals that have known nothing but communal housing since birth. Its not a perfect science, as every now and then you get an alpha + animal that hates everyone. But there is a huge difference between communally raised animals and what I will call normal animals. What we do in captivity raising young animals is not normal. Nor is it cruel. Its just the way it is. Hundreds of members of this forum have bought from me, and had this explained, as housing and expansion is always a concern.
If you put two animals together that are used to normal nomadic gowth, such as two wild-caughts, expect trouble. Maybe in spades.
jamncristian
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I just figured at a certain point in their life
perhaps puberty, they wouldn't be able to stand even seeing each other
so then they would have to be seperated
I know by no means you are recommending this but
it is an interesting thing and thank you for sharing
perhaps puberty, they wouldn't be able to stand even seeing each other
so then they would have to be seperated
I know by no means you are recommending this but
it is an interesting thing and thank you for sharing
chamyndst8
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Nice choice of chams Chamlover96. The Chameleon Company has some good looking chams. I got a male sired by Beetlejuice and a female from Bonaroo alittle while ago.
Chamlover96
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LOL .... Haven't posted in a while. Thanks for the kind words. Just to add. The female was born early winter, and as we had a severe winter for Florida, her early growth was slow. The male, however, has known nothing but the best of Florida heat and sunshine. We can grow males to 8 inches in 10-12 weeks under prime conditions.
As for housing together. If one had animals that had been housed seperately prior, or imports, you are correct that they should not be housed with another panther, male or female. But in captivity, many of us house several siblings together as we raise them after hatching. So long as kept with other chameleons, they will be compatible with cage-mates to an overwhelmingly greater extent than expected. It is cheating Mother Nature a bit, and we do advise separating them before they reach breeding size, but things are not as some forum tales think. FYI, one can raise two males together, and they will be bosom buddies for so long as they remain together, to include until old age death by natural causes. I don't recommend it, but thats the fact.
We thank all who have helped us pay our bills !
No problem Jim. Thank you for such beautiful chameleons! Thanks for posting why the female is so close in size to the male. And the male doesn't even seem aggressive at all next to her. She puffs up and hisses and tries to bite me every time my hand goes near her. She also doesn't like to be misted. I have to post pics so u can see how beautiful they are.
Once again thanks,
Mike
Chamlover96
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I was going to get a female sired by Bonaroo but my mom and sister liked Q better. How are your babies doing? That is if they are still babies
Chamlover96
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I forgot to mention that i can already se some yellows and reds in the male and the female has a small patch of red and her lips are yellow
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