need help to identify species

ISTHOMS

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We got a male and female "robertson's" chameleon at a repticon expo. The breeder told us that they would do well and live a while. The female didn't do too well and died within a week. We forgot to ask the scientific name and am having trouble trying to identify it so we can get it a friend. Please help.
 
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We got a male and female "robertson's" chameleon at a repticon expo. The breeder told us that they would do well and live a while. The female didn't do too well and died within a week. We forgot to ask the scientific name and am having trouble trying to identify it so we can get it a friend. Please help.


Its tough to tell from that pic, possibly a Jacksons? In your post you said you wanted to get it a friend? Probably not a good idea unless you're planning on having 2 separate enclosures. Most chameleon species are very solitary and are only found together during mating.
 
We know it's not a robertsons dwarf as it has three horns. It's also not a jacksons as it is too small. I believe it to ba a chameleo trioceros werneri or werner's chameleon. We don't have any pics of the female so we can't check if it had a single horn or not but i bekieve it is a werner's.

Here are some beter pics:
 

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It is a Jacksons chameleon, to specify a jacksonii jacksonii, a subadult one. Werneris have occipitale laps, jacksoniis not
 
sad that someone selling these animals doesnt even know what its called, and I would assume also gives horrible advice on how to care for them and any info regarding them.
 
sad that someone selling these animals doesnt even know what its called, and I would assume also gives horrible advice on how to care for them and any info regarding them.

So far I've spent a few months researching and preparing for owning a chameleon, just waiting for the right time :)

But I am totally blown away by the number of people who post on this site who have purchased a cham and have absolutely no idea what they have, in regards to age, gender, and even species!! I fully understand that in some cases age and gender are easier to determine as a cham matures. But what I can't understand is how its possible for a seller to not know what species they have.

I'm realizing now that for every legitimate reptile breeder there are as many or more people taking advantage of the unsuspecting public by selling animals they care very little about, motivated only by making a profit.

I see this site as a great resource for all current and potential cham owners and have came across lots of valuable information. For any potential owners out there.... whether you're at a pet store or a Reptile Expo, ask questions!! If the seller can't answer then that should raise some red flags:)
 
So far I've spent a few months researching and preparing for owning a chameleon, just waiting for the right time :)

But I am totally blown away by the number of people who post on this site who have purchased a cham and have absolutely no idea what they have, in regards to age, gender, and even species!! I fully understand that in some cases age and gender are easier to determine as a cham matures. But what I can't understand is how its possible for a seller to not know what species they have.

I'm realizing now that for every legitimate reptile breeder there are as many or more people taking advantage of the unsuspecting public by selling animals they care very little about, motivated only by making a profit.

I see this site as a great resource for all current and potential cham owners and have came across lots of valuable information. For any potential owners out there.... whether you're at a pet store or a Reptile Expo, ask questions!! If the seller can't answer then that should raise some red flags:)

I think reptile shows have a lot of "sell it and forget it" folks that get various "things" and are only there to make profit. These seem to be the guys who have a bit of everything, usually from wholesalers, and a lot of it wc. They don't know, and they don't care, and if they're wrong, they're no where to be found the day after the show.

As for potential owners asking questions -- if someone is *really* new, they may not know the right questions to ask, or have notes on how to identify something. I'll admit that while awaiting a Carpet chameleon, I ended up buying Pygmies at the first reptile show I went to. I was already on the forum, but Pygmies!? I had no clue. I was told some useless garbage by the people selling them (which I ignored), took them home and got on this site. I did a lot of research before going out to purchase supplies. Just my experience, but it may be similar for others.

BTW, I never did get a Carpet cham, but have come home with a couple of brevs everytime. Also, a gravid Werner's last time. Once again, bring it home and hit "search" on these forums. I love the folks here!! Well, most of you :p
 
Thanks for everything. I thought Jackson's were larger, but i was wrong. If i would have known that they are the size they are. I would have been able to find out myself. It's our first chameleon, so we definetly aren't experts.
 
He's nowhere near full-grown yet. When mature, he'll be abut a foot in length with much longer horns.
 
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