New Arrangement

[Brad Ramsey]

Here is a picture of my new arrangement of enclosures.
The cool thing is I am only using 6 feet by 2 feet of floor space with these shelves.
There are 6 enclosures housed here.
16x16x20
18x12x20
18x18x36
16x17x30
24x24x48
and an 18x18x24 exoterra

The exoterra is housing some invertabrate eggs () ... one of the boys science projects.

The rest are for chameleons ... only 2 are occupied at the moment, but as most of you know I have eggs cooking. So I will not be doing any chameleon acquisition at the moment.

Just showing how you can utilize a small area.

-Brad

 

[Sepioteuthis]

Hey Brad, looks nice.

How do you regulate the temp gradients in the cages that have another cage (which I'm assuming will have it's own heatlamp) underneath it?
Similar question about drainage. I've always stayed away from 2-layer caging because I didn't want to have to deal with misting water from the upper layer potentially damaging the lights of the bottom layer.

cheers,
Suzanne

 

[JoshCrane1]

hmm... cooking eggs makes me hungry.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Hey Brad, looks nice.

How do you regulate the temp gradients in the cages that have another cage (which I'm assuming will have it's own heatlamp) underneath it?
Similar question about drainage. I've always stayed away from 2-layer caging because I didn't want to have to deal with misting water from the upper layer potentially damaging the lights of the bottom layer.

cheers,
Suzanne

Excellent concerns!
I rely on drippers and collection containers and hand misting. I do not have any type of drainage system in place ... the water stays within the enclosure and I dump the containers every morning.
As far as temperature gradients are concerned ... the room is kept at 70 degrees f. in the day and drops to 62 f. at night.
Each enclosure does have it's own basking light at the top and basking temps are determined by the bulb used for each chameleon.
ie: the male veiled has a hotter bulb than the female.
I am going to lower temps through the winter as I also shorten the days (gradually) still giving them a place to warm up in the morning.
The chameleons have already started to go to bed much earlier than the current "lights out" time.
They have been starting to roost at about 4:00 p.m. the last couple of weeks, which is the time I will eventually have the lights go off in the winter.
In the winter the room is supplementally heated with an electric space heater and in the daytime the higher cages will get warmer so lower wattage basking bulbs will be used to keep the temps where I would like them to be.

-Brad

 

[veiledchamguy]

Hey brad the biggest cage on the right in the picture...where did you get that?

 

[JoshCrane1]

Hey brad the biggest cage on the right in the picture...where did you get that?

looks like the lllreptile.com 24x24x48" cage. i have the same.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Hey brad the biggest cage on the right in the picture...where did you get that?

I purchased it from Mike at flchams.

-Brad

 

[JoshCrane1]

I purchased it from Mike at flchams.

-Brad

dang!! i knew it was a 50/50 shot between flchams and lllreptile.com. owell.

 

[Nicodemayo]

Only two occupied? What happened to your Senegal?

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Only two occupied? What happened to your Senegal?

There is a thread in the health section that details her untimely demise.
It is entitled "Eartha Trouble"

-Brad

 

[sandrachameleon]

Here is a picture of my new arrangement of enclosures.
The cool thing is I am only using 6 feet by 2 feet of floor space with these shelves.
There are 6 enclosures housed here.
16x16x20
18x12x20
18x18x36
16x17x30
24x24x48
and an 18x18x24 exoterra

The exoterra is housing some invertabrate eggs () ... one of the boys science projects.

The rest are for chameleons ... only 2 are occupied at the moment, but as most of you know I have eggs cooking. So I will not be doing any chameleon acquisition at the moment.
Just showing how you can utilize a small area.
-Brad

All but the 24x24x48 seem quite small for chameleons? are they only for babies?
edit: DUH - I reread and see they are for when the eggs hatch.

 

[ocdirtyjerz]

I'm interested in knowing how much you spent on all the cages.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

All but the 24x24x48 seem quite small for chameleons? are they only for babies?
edit: DUH - I reread and see they are for when the eggs hatch.

Depends on what species you're keeping.
The 18x18x36 and the 16x17x30 are more than adequate for female veileds or panthers.

-Brad

 

[Brad Ramsey]

I'm interested in knowing how much you spent on all the cages.

I purchased most of them used ... so, not a lot.

-Brad

 

[sandrachameleon]

Depends on what species you're keeping.
The 18x18x36 and the 16x17x30 are more than adequate for female veileds or panthers.
-Brad

Well, I disagree. i think that's too small for an adult panther or veiled, regardless of gender. But we're each entitled to our opinions. I assume you use a separate laying enclosure?

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Well, I disagree. i think that's too small for an adult panther or veiled, regardless of gender. But we're each entitled to our opinions. I assume you use a separate laying enclosure?

No, I put the laying bin in the enclosure that the female lives in.

And gender has a huge amount to do with the size of the enclosure for these two species.
Females are much smaller and much more likely to remain stationary throughout the day.
Males (in my experience) are larger and roam and patrol their territory regularly, requiring larger spaces in which to feel comfortable.

-Brad

 

[opihiman]

No, I put the laying bin in the enclosure that the female lives in.

And gender has a huge amount to do with the size of the enclosure for these two species.
Females are much smaller and much more likely to remain stationary throughout the day.
Males (in my experience) are larger and roam and patrol their territory regularly, requiring larger spaces in which to feel comfortable.

-Brad

Brad do you think that this is true for most cham species?

OPI

 

[sandrachameleon]

No, I put the laying bin in the enclosure that the female lives in.And gender has a huge amount to do with the size of the enclosure for these two species.Females are much smaller and much more likely to remain stationary throughout the day.Males (in my experience) are larger and roam and patrol their territory regularly, requiring larger spaces in which to feel comfortable.
-Brad

All i can say is, my female panthers are far from stationary. I keep them in enclosures very near the same size as the males and the utilize the entire space. But if it works for your girls, fair enough.