New calumma Oshaughnessys

[Garrett]

I don't think there are any set rules on what winter temps should be used, if possible it's best to ask the importer where the specific animals were collected as these have a large range, and research that location's weather on the internet to get a good idea of the daily lows and highs over the course of the year.
I looked through my CIN stack but it looks like I'm missing #34

 

[OldChamKeeper]

I don't think there are any set rules on what winter temps should be used, if possible it's best to ask the importer where the specific animals were collected as these have a large range, and research that location's weather on the internet to get a good idea of the daily lows and highs over the course of the year.
I looked through my CIN stack but it looks like I'm missing #34

This.

My dad and I used to go to the library (look that word up youngsters) to research the climate from where any new reptile we purchased, was used to. Course now I just do it from this smartassphone of mine.

 

[distortionz]

The picture was a big misunderstanding. Just worked that out.
I do have a feeling when I look at them for the first time it's going to be game over for me. Hopefully there not quite as addicting as panthers are. I went from buying my first one to getting 3 more within a couple weeks. Now years later 100s and 100s have come and gone.
I really need to figure out how to get my temps way down for brumating. I know I can get them in the low 60's but I'm going to have to get creative to get the temps lower than that.

Good luck I have a feeling you will be blown away once you finally see them.. I fell in love with the species from pictures of the males I saw online.. I just loved their look.. But when I got to see a female in person the first time I was blown away. Pictures do them no justice. The greens that show on their body have almost a metallic look to it that I can't explain and pictures can't even begin to give you an idea. Just wait until you see your girl for the first time. With most species of chameleons it seems either male or female one or the other is way more visually pleasing than the other.. To me with the o'shaughnessys it is a toss up.. Both are amazing.

 

[guanagator]

Mix up with the females was resolved, this one is headed my way while the other girl goes to Craig. Only pic I have so far and she's going into shed so not her best. I'm planning on lots of water- same misting schedules as my graciliors to start and will modify if needed. North Florida's up in the 90s most days now, hoping we get some cooler mornings to give them some natural sun time. Thinking they will be alright mid to upper 80s with the misters on but will keep a close eye on them. We don't have a dry heat it's very humid already so that should help.

 

[Craigwyatt]

Good luck I have a feeling you will be blown away once you finally see them.. I fell in love with the species from pictures of the males I saw online.. I just loved their look.. But when I got to see a female in person the first time I was blown away. Pictures do them no justice. The greens that show on their body have almost a metallic look to it that I can't explain and pictures can't even begin to give you an idea. Just wait until you see your girl for the first time. With most species of chameleons it seems either male or female one or the other is way more visually pleasing than the other.. To me with the o'shaughnessys it is a toss up.. Both are amazing.

Yeah I'm pretty exited about receiving these guys. I'm already blown away just by the pics. I can't wait to have them here in my hands!! Pictures are great but there's nothing like the real thing. In the winter I'm going to place there cages next to a dig out basement door. This will be the absolute coldest place in my whole house. There is no heat down stairs. So hopefully on extremely cold days and nights I can get them at least in the mid 50s.
Tell me this. During this time what is there feeding and drinking schedule. Or are they even eating at all.

 

[Craigwyatt]

Mix up with the females was resolved, this one is headed my way while the other girl goes to Craig. Only pic I have so far and she's going into shed so not her best. I'm planning on lots of water- same misting schedules as my graciliors to start and will modify if needed. North Florida's up in the 90s most days now, hoping we get some cooler mornings to give them some natural sun time. Thinking they will be alright mid to upper 80s with the misters on but will keep a close eye on them. We don't have a dry heat it's very humid already so that should help.

It's def pretty easy now to see looking at your new girl how ours got confused. They look like twins!!
I'm chompin at the bit now to get these. I'm on Oshaughnessy brain overload!! Lol

 

[guanagator]

It's def pretty easy now to see looking at your new girl how ours got confused. They look like twins!!
I'm chompin at the bit now to get these. I'm on Oshaughnessy brain overload!! Lol

Same! He sent another pic before boxing her up, looking forward to tomorrow morning like a kid before Christmas.

 

[OldChamKeeper]

Same! He sent another pic before boxing her up, looking forward to tomorrow morning like a kid before Christmas.

Looking a little rough in the hips, hind quarter, and skull. Normal for an import.....

 

[Craigwyatt]

They are here!! The male came out of the bag banana yellow!! For a second I thought it was a Panther. I mean that yellow. Then he turned around in the bag and showed me that face. WOW. These guys are much better in person. The female was a bit dark. But that's to be expected. I only held them just long enough to put them in there cages.
I fed and watered them and now I'm just leaving them alone.
I'll take some pics in a day or 2.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

They are similar in care to parsonii but would need an even cooler winter brumation as they're from the central highlands. I remember reading it can sometimes get down into the 40s or even near freezing at night during the winter months.
There is a CIN journal with an article about these guys, Chris Anderson referenced #34 in another thread.. pretty sure I have that issue but I'll have to dig it out.
I remember there being some good information in that article.

Garrett

I actually think they are from the mid altitude eastern forests. The central highlands of Madagascar are a high plateau and Calumma oshaughnessyi are not native to that region. However the IUCN Red List page has the species listed as being native to the central highlands. The IUCN page lists that the central highlands region as the native range for Calumma oshaughnessyi, even though their range map for Calumma oshaughnessyi for the IUCN Red List page shows the species placed in the eastern forests as the species native habitat along with other sources (Chameleons, Natures Hidden Jewels, Peter Necas). Calumma oshaughnessyi is listed as being native to Ranomanfana National Park that is located in the Madagascar eastern forest. This is documented habitat for Yellow Lip Calumma parsonii parsonii. This meaning Calumma oshaughnessyi is going to have similar husbandry requirements to Calumma parsonii parsonii in particular Yellow Lip Calumma parsonii parsonii.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[cyberlocc]

Garrett

I actually think they are from the mid altitude eastern forests. The central highlands of Madagascar are a high plateau and Calumma oshaughnessyi are not native to that region. However the IUCN Red List page has the species listed as being native to the central highlands. The IUCN page lists that the central highlands region as the native range for Calumma oshaughnessyi, even though their range map for Calumma oshaughnessyi for the IUCN Red List page shows the species placed in the eastern forests as the species native habitat along with other sources (Chameleons, Natures Hidden Jewels, Peter Necas). Calumma oshaughnessyi is listed as being native to Ranomanfana National Park that is located in the Madagascar eastern forest. This is documented habitat for Yellow Lip Calumma parsonii parsonii. This meaning Calumma oshaughnessyi is going to have similar husbandry requirements to Calumma parsonii parsonii in particular Yellow Lip Calumma parsonii parsonii.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

That is similar to what was said on the Fbook group. So I am with you, after I was told that there my own research showed the same. They can sometimes be found in the CH, however in small numbers and low parts, the majority are in the east and north.

 

[Garrett]

I do remember them being found in the same habitat as yellow lips from the article. I think the term "highlands" is sometimes interchanged with the high altitudes of the eastern forests. The high central elevations border and overlap forests in the east. Looking at an elevation map the higher plateau ends abruptly and overlaps the westernmost edge of the eastern humid forests, so I could see how central highlands get's used. It should read "the very easternmost edge of the central highlands occupying primary humid forests from 500-2000m" Or maybe...higher western elevations of the wet eastern forests.
Maybe you should edit the Wikipedia distribution paragraph
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Shaughnessy's_chameleon

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Pardon me my previous post is off. Calumma oshaughnessyi is not listed in Chameleons, Natures Hidden Jewels, by Peter Necas. However in CIN 34 their species range map confirms that Calumma oshaughnessyi inhabits the eastern forests of Madagascar not the central high plateau. I was at my office and did not have my chameleons material on hand.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I do remember them being found in the same habitat as yellow lips from the article. I think the term "highlands" is sometimes interchanged with the high altitudes of the eastern forests. The high central elevations border and overlap forests in the east. Looking at an elevation map the higher plateau ends abruptly and overlaps the westernmost edge of the eastern humid forests, so I could see how central highlands get's used. It should read "the very easternmost edge of the central highlands occupying primary humid forests from 500-2000m" Or maybe...higher western elevations of the wet eastern forests.
Maybe you should edit the Wikipedia distribution paragraph
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O'Shaughnessy's_chameleon

They should edit that detail. The high eastern forests is one of the most endangered ecosystems in Madagascar. To my knowledge most of that high altitude pristine forest habitat has been destroyed. The denzine that mostly lives in the high altitude eastern forests is not Calumma oshaughnessyi it is Calumma globifer. I have not heard reports of southern high eastern forest fragments containing Calumma oshaughnessyi with maybe one exception in CIN 34.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich