New option for dead chamaleons

[camaleonverde]

As always happens to all we some time loose a friend chameleon , what to do, buried, taxidermy, fire and ashes. having a bronze foundry I get the idea in casting some of my old friends. will try to show some photos from my castings. hope you like it. thanks .

 

[GoFast]

Interesting....

What would the cost be for something like this?

 

[Olimpia]

That seems a little morbid to me, since they look dead. But a bronze statue of a healthy chameleon of the same species would be something really nice to have.

 

[cambech]

That seems a little morbid to me, since they look dead. But a bronze statue of a healthy chameleon of the same species would be something really nice to have.

Agreed. Not sure i could do this.

 

[james L]

Kind of weird dude......
Use the dead ones for scientific purposes...
Not for creepy decorations...........
Also you sure do have alot of dead chameleons. I see the Veiled had MBD. So what did they all die of????

 

[ColorCham427]

I saw one of these statues at the Natural History Muesum in NYC, and I swore that chameleon was real!!! The statue I looked at was an Ambanja, I honestly like this idea.

I only think it's a good idea if you find them freshly dead. The chameleon with his eyes really sunken in looks disturbing to me.

The Ambanja I saw was in top shape, but definitely looked like a WC with his head pads sunken and his eyes a little bit sunken in. His tongue was being shot too in the statue.

 

[Chris Anderson]

I like the idea of a bronze chameleon statue (I have a couple miniature ones) but using dead chameleons as a cast really is not very appealing for anyone who is familiar with how they are supposed to look. Because its a casting, it picks up all the detail in the animal so you can tell the animal was dehydrated, emaciated and likely suffered from MBD, depending on the individual.

I actually have people send me their frozen dead chameleons when they are in reasonable condition (frozen soon after death) and I use them for a number of things here in the lab. I have a growing alcohol prep collection of various species which are useful for species morphology differentiation, I have a number of skeletonized chameleons for species skeletal differentiation, use some for mock surgery procedures, others for actual morphology studies (scaling studies, etc.), etc.

Chris

 

[petkel]

The 4th pic looks like it is decomposed on the stick because you had bronzed it, i don't think i could have a decomposed looking chameleon on a stick it would look like a health hazard, how do you stop these from decomposing?
Everyone to their own and if you like it then thats great, but not for me lol.

 

[eisentrauti]

That seems a little morbid to me, since they look dead. But a bronze statue of a healthy chameleon of the same species would be something really nice to have.

Sometimes I have to agree with you
What to do with a dead chameleon ? If it's a more or less rare species buy some alcohol and put it inside. Especially if theres the rare case that you know the exact locality of it.

 

[steelheadchaser]

The 4th pic looks like it is decomposed on the stick because you had bronzed it, i don't think i could have a decomposed looking chameleon on a stick it would look like a health hazard, how do you stop these from decomposing?
Everyone to their own and if you like it then thats great, but not for me lol.

These are likely done using the lost wax casting technique. These aren't dead chameleons that have been covered with bronze.

 

[Syn]

To each his own. Have you had a lot of chameleons or do people send you the dead ones?

 

[Joery]

I only keep and prep/fixate unborn or still born juveniles (they are small and not common available) in 70% alcohol and protect them from light. I can suggest to fill your container to the top to have as little air/oxygen as possible... What you can also do is fix it in formol/formaldehyde for 24h and then transfer it to 70% alcohol.

 

[Fidel]

What mold technique did you use, ceramic shell, resin bonded sand? I've done this before with insects, crustations, and birds, but in cast iron, never bronze.

 

[camaleonverde]

bronze castings

These are likely done using the lost wax casting technique. These aren't dead chameleons that have been covered with bronze.

sure they was done in lost wax. , they was not my chameleons, they die at the near pet shop and given to me for experimentation, sure they are dead and they like dead, is a process for replica the details, not for art work. it is not my business so I have not idea what will be the cost.
Thank you all for the critics is comforting to know your opinions.

 

[carol5208]

Gosh, if the Veiled with the MBD came from a pet shop they oughta be banned from selling chameleons. I appreciate art in all forms, but this is just a little too weird for me! No offense!!!

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

Very interesting work. The first and second ones are cool.

Sort of have a "house of horrors" or Madame Tussaud's appeal to it.

This scene comes to mind (this is not aimed at you camaleonverde= you're cool):

I go to a reptile show back east somewhere and meet up with some members from this forum. We all decide to go to one of the member's homes to check out their chams. Don't know this member very well, but he/she lives very close to the show - so- we think - why not? The place is kind of creepy. Long driveway. Front yard all overgrown. He/she sets us down in the darkened "parlor" for a few minutes while he/she "freshens up". We hear multiple scratching sounds coming from the other side of the walls. As our eyes adjust to the dim lighting we notice heavily carved, marble topped, victorian furnishings towering overhead. Displayed there are countless bronze sculptures of dead reptiles and mammals. Not a word is spoken. We lower our eyes, glance at each other, and, in a single breathless motion, leap to our feet and race to the door of the room. Unfortunately, only Chuck G makes it out alive.

Next year, another feckless group visits the same house. A new series of bronzes has been added ....

 

[Chuck G]

Very interesting work. The first and second ones are cool.

Sort of have a "house of horrors" or Madame Tussaud's appeal to it.

This scene comes to mind (this is not aimed at you camaleonverde= you're cool):

I go to a reptile show back east somewhere and meet up with some members from this forum. We all decide to go to one of the member's homes to check out their chams. Don't know this member very well, but he/she lives very close to the show - so- we think - why not? The place is kind of creepy. Long driveway. Front yard all overgrown. He/she sets us down in the darkened "parlor" for a few minutes while he/she "freshens up". We hear multiple scratching sounds coming from the other side of the walls. As our eyes adjust to the dim lighting we notice heavily carved, marble topped, victorian furnishings towering overhead. Displayed there are countless bronze sculptures of dead reptiles and mammals. Not a word is spoken. We lower our eyes, glance at each other, and, in a single breathless motion, leap to our feet and race to the door of the room. Unfortunately, only Chuck G makes it out alive.

Next year, another feckless group visits the same house. A new series of bronzes has been added ....

Great story telling! I promise to take care of anyone's chameleons that don't make it out!

 

[Syn]

But you're still alive -- gasp! ARE YOU THE PERSON?

 

[Chuck G]

sure they was done in lost wax. , they was not my chameleons, they die at the near pet shop and given to me for experimentation, sure they are dead and they like dead, is a process for replica the details, not for art work. it is not my business so I have not idea what will be the cost.
Thank you all for the critics is comforting to know your opinions.

I have to give this a thumbs up! I love morbidly creepy art in any form.

 

[Chuck G]

But you're still alive -- gasp! ARE YOU THE PERSON?

You just made the list.