little leaf
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I am posting this to help show what a dislocated leg looks like- I went to a pet shop I did not know had chams, I went every week, watching the chams- they had them in bird cages 
- well, after many visits, and sending poor Laurie about 100 pix of her BEFORE I got her, to be sure she looked ok, I decided to get one of the female Jackson cahms - she is a big girl - bigger than any of the others - and she looks preg ???? so anyway- I set up my cage, ran everything for a few days to be sure all was ok in the cage- and got my foam box, the same one I used to take Gail to the vet 3 X a week for weeks - it has a mounted thick stick, and a vine wrapped around that for extra traction - I think I could have dropped this from the moon and Gail would have had a safe landing - so , they put the cham in my box, I looked to be sure she is sitting well, put the lid on, and head for home - SOOOOOOOOOO happy to once again have a cham I got home, misted the cage so she would have water all over ,cracked the lid so she could crawl out at her own pace- and this is how she looked when she came out- I have NO idea how on earth how she did this to herself - I PANICKED my first thought was to hurry and grab her a re-bend the leg back to normal - I was just sick about it- I was SOOOO careful about everything - I even put off getting her 2 days because I was 1.5 degrees off in my cage- I called Laurie- IN A PANIC- and by now it is about 9:30 at night- I gave her water, she was very thirsty , and then put her to bed- I got up at 5:30 am (after looking on line until 2 am to try to find what to do for her) all I could see was a small leg sticking straight out of a clump of vine- so I knew her leg was still messed up- to early for lights on, so I left her be- at 8 I went to put on my lights - THANK GOD !!! when she came out of her spot, her leg looks like this now- somehow she put it back in place- I am so glad I did not grab her and snap her leg back in place- her leg is observably sore- and her "knee cap" is a bit swollen - but she is using it- and getting around the cage - my gut tells me to take her to the vet ASAP - but at this point- it is not life threatening ( although Iabout died of a heart attack when I saw it) I think a trip to the vet is going to be WAYYYYY more stress then she can take - and I fear putting her in the box again , because I dont know how she did this in there - we have a few thoughts on what MAY have made this happen- like , being in a stupid bird cage- she could not climb w/ her feet UNDER herself, so she used a odd leg splayed "traction" to get around the cage- I am upset at the shop for how they had them - after so many trips in the owner asked me why I was hesitating to buy one- so it was a good chance to chat w/ him about the husbandry- and we had a great convo - and I did end up going back and getting her in part just to get the 2 girls out of the same cage- and I just fell in love w/ her I am keeping away from the cage - she is much happier now- but still very nervous - I am playing "peek-a-boo" to just kinda check on her off and on from afar - going to offer her some lunch later today - I know the pic looks very bad, and trust me - it was very upsetting when this happened- but I just wanted to show what it looked like so others can #1 see it- I could not find anything like this on the forum , and # 2 - don't panic - had I reached in and grabbed her leg, and forced it back down, I dont know what would have happened ( had this been in the day- I would have rushed her to the vet asap- and that was my plan had her leg still been out of place this am - my biggest worry was blood supply to the limb- a bit swollen, a bit sore- but seems to be on the mend - I am wondering if being in that bird cage made her stretch her tendons out , and then when she got "traction " in the box, the tork made it pop? I am just glad she is using the leg
this REALLLY took all the fun out of getting my new cham
first pic is yesterday when it happened , and 2nd is today - and one of her at the pet shop - IF she is preg/ do they get lose muscles like other animals? I only know at the end of preg/ our broodmares are so lose in the back end from hormones they could hardly walk - do chams do the same ???
- well, after many visits, and sending poor Laurie about 100 pix of her BEFORE I got her, to be sure she looked ok, I decided to get one of the female Jackson cahms - she is a big girl - bigger than any of the others - and she looks preg ???? so anyway- I set up my cage, ran everything for a few days to be sure all was ok in the cage- and got my foam box, the same one I used to take Gail to the vet 3 X a week for weeks - it has a mounted thick stick, and a vine wrapped around that for extra traction - I think I could have dropped this from the moon and Gail would have had a safe landing - so , they put the cham in my box, I looked to be sure she is sitting well, put the lid on, and head for home - SOOOOOOOOOO happy to once again have a cham I got home, misted the cage so she would have water all over ,cracked the lid so she could crawl out at her own pace- and this is how she looked when she came out- I have NO idea how on earth how she did this to herself - I PANICKED my first thought was to hurry and grab her a re-bend the leg back to normal - I was just sick about it- I was SOOOO careful about everything - I even put off getting her 2 days because I was 1.5 degrees off in my cage- I called Laurie- IN A PANIC- and by now it is about 9:30 at night- I gave her water, she was very thirsty , and then put her to bed- I got up at 5:30 am (after looking on line until 2 am to try to find what to do for her) all I could see was a small leg sticking straight out of a clump of vine- so I knew her leg was still messed up- to early for lights on, so I left her be- at 8 I went to put on my lights - THANK GOD !!! when she came out of her spot, her leg looks like this now- somehow she put it back in place- I am so glad I did not grab her and snap her leg back in place- her leg is observably sore- and her "knee cap" is a bit swollen - but she is using it- and getting around the cage - my gut tells me to take her to the vet ASAP - but at this point- it is not life threatening ( although Iabout died of a heart attack when I saw it) I think a trip to the vet is going to be WAYYYYY more stress then she can take - and I fear putting her in the box again , because I dont know how she did this in there - we have a few thoughts on what MAY have made this happen- like , being in a stupid bird cage- she could not climb w/ her feet UNDER herself, so she used a odd leg splayed "traction" to get around the cage- I am upset at the shop for how they had them - after so many trips in the owner asked me why I was hesitating to buy one- so it was a good chance to chat w/ him about the husbandry- and we had a great convo - and I did end up going back and getting her in part just to get the 2 girls out of the same cage- and I just fell in love w/ her I am keeping away from the cage - she is much happier now- but still very nervous - I am playing "peek-a-boo" to just kinda check on her off and on from afar - going to offer her some lunch later today - I know the pic looks very bad, and trust me - it was very upsetting when this happened- but I just wanted to show what it looked like so others can #1 see it- I could not find anything like this on the forum , and # 2 - don't panic - had I reached in and grabbed her leg, and forced it back down, I dont know what would have happened ( had this been in the day- I would have rushed her to the vet asap- and that was my plan had her leg still been out of place this am - my biggest worry was blood supply to the limb- a bit swollen, a bit sore- but seems to be on the mend - I am wondering if being in that bird cage made her stretch her tendons out , and then when she got "traction " in the box, the tork made it pop? I am just glad she is using the leg this REALLLY took all the fun out of getting my new cham
first pic is yesterday when it happened , and 2nd is today - and one of her at the pet shop - IF she is preg/ do they get lose muscles like other animals? I only know at the end of preg/ our broodmares are so lose in the back end from hormones they could hardly walk - do chams do the same ???
