Orange Eyes Getting Some Sun!

[jpowell86]

I let these guys have some outside time today. I think some outdoor time and some sun gives chameleons such a nice pick-me-up!

While outside, I offered them some male dubia. The male actively hunted and ate two dubia. The female ate 9!! Lol

@Extensionofgreen

 

[Nursemaia]

You trying to say women like to eat

 

[jpowell86]

You trying to say women like to eat

Don't be getting me in trouble Maia!!!

 

[Twitchet]

Let me just put that doughnut down for a minute and type this- darn sugary fingers
Great pictures Joel, Male has some nice colouring - is that with natural sunlight?
9 dubia- crikey - what a piglet! amazing.
Nice to see them. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Abba's Amanda]

Wow they are so beautiful! I just love these chams!

 

[savage13]

Let me guess you live in CALIFORNIA.. so jealous... @jpowell86 there do look beautiful thing are looking up bro....

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Your male has some unique coloration compared to other Orange Eye White Lips I have seen. The pair looks great.

Just make certain you keep your Trioceros melleri well separated from your Calumma parsonii parsonii. Wild caught Trioceos melleri have diseases that can kill Calumma parsonii parsonii.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[Action Jackson]

Yellowgiantorangeeyewhitelip Parsonii

 

[savage13]

@Motherlode Chameleon your right about color they look to have more yellow to them.....

 

[jpowell86]

Let me guess you live in CALIFORNIA.. so jealous... @jpowell86 there do look beautiful thing are looking up bro....

No, Texas.

 

[jpowell86]

Your male has some unique coloration compared to other Orange Eye White Lips I have seen. The pair looks great.

Just make certain you keep your Trioceros melleri well separated from your Calumma parsonii parsonii. Wild caught Trioceos melleri have diseases that can kill Calumma parsonii parsonii.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

Hey Jeremy. I have actually always followed this rule. But I have never been able to find any literature on this topic. Would you mind attaching any that you may have found. I would love to read over it.

Yes, the male is very different. He has an interesting look for sure.

 

[jpowell86]

Yellowgiantorangeeyewhitelip Parsonii

There was a pic earlier on FB with a parsonii. The topic read, "Yellow Giant or Orange Eye." The chameleon pictured had many similarities to this OE male. Although the one pictured was a more mature animal compared to this male. I remember thinking at one point some time ago that this male was a young YG.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Hey Jeremy. I have actually always followed this rule. But I have never been able to find any literature on this topic. Would you mind attaching any that you may have found. I would love to read over it.

Yes, the male is very different. He has an interesting look for sure.

Actually my main experience with wild caught Trioceros melleri diseases killing Calumma parsonii parsonii is not from literature. I have had a second hand experience with a colleague of mine that had this situation happen to his Calumma parsonii parsonii breeding groups. However his name is going to stay anonymous. Other than that I have heard occasional reports of encounters of disease transmission from wild caught Trioceros melleri to Calumma parsonii parsonii. Joel if you want to talk more about it send me a pm.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[leedragon]

Actually my main experience with wild caught Trioceros melleri diseases killing Calumma parsonii parsonii is not from literature. I have had a second hand experience with a colleague of mine that had this situation happen to his Calumma parsonii parsonii breeding groups. However his name is going to stay anonymous. Other than that I have heard occasional reports of encounters of disease transmission from wild caught Trioceros melleri to Calumma parsonii parsonii. Joel if you want to talk more about it send me a pm.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

if you got an extra minut I would like to read about this aswell. i had Heard about the melleri virus by a Panther breeder here in sweden. unfortunately the article he himself read it from was gone. I found however some article about this in chameleonsnews I belive, of the time parsons and melleries were housed together with disastrous results

 

[savage13]

Actually my main experience with wild caught Trioceros melleri diseases killing Calumma parsonii parsonii is not from literature. I have had a second hand experience with a colleague of mine that had this situation happen to his Calumma parsonii parsonii breeding groups. However his name is going to stay anonymous. Other than that I have heard occasional reports of encounters of disease transmission from wild caught Trioceros melleri to Calumma parsonii parsonii. Joel if you want to talk more about it send me a pm.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

I heard something similar like that back in the 90s also a small colony Parsons got infected and the whole colony crashed. Back then CIN kept good records who had what..

 

[jpowell86]

@leedragon
@savage13

This is what I found on the matter. Very interesting article. http://www.chameleonnews.com/02NovKalischMelleriMyth.html

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

@leedragon
@savage13

This is what I found on the matter. Very interesting article. http://www.chameleonnews.com/02NovKalischMelleriMyth.html

Joel thanks for posting the link.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[jpowell86]

Joel thanks for posting the link.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

For sure. I was always under the impression that it was a particular protozoan, or something of the like, that was melleri specific that caused these issues. I had no idea it was an issue that was caused by cohabitation. That makes way more sense.

 

[Virgil1972]

Nice looking animals there.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

For sure. I was always under the impression that it was a particular protozoan, or something of the like, that was melleri specific that caused these issues. I had no idea it was an issue that was caused by cohabitation. That makes way more sense.

Joel I think this situation was a combination of both cohabitation bites then eventual death from the transmission from some kind of protozoan or some kind of other bacteria or virus. From my experiences these two species (Trioceros melleri and Calumma parsonii parsonii) should not be house together or near each other. Take care with regards to your Calumma parsonii parsonii.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich