Panther Cham Lip Concern

[Mom]

Chameleon Info:

• Your Chameleon - Female Panther Chameleon; About 4 Months. In my care since Nov. 7th
• Handling - Everyday
• Feeding - Hornworms, meal worms, crickets, (1) discoid roach
• Supplements - ZooMed Repti Calcium W/O D3 (every day); Rep-Cal Herptivite with Beta Carotene Multivitamins (every other week); Rep-Cal Phosphorus Calcium W/ D3 Ultrafine Powder (every other week)
• Watering - Spray water from spray bottle; Twice a day, Morning and Evening. Spray for several minutes until plants are soaked. She drinks mostly in the morning.
• Fecal Description - Normal poop and urate. Dark brown and white. Not tested for parasites.
• History - n/a

Cage Info:

• Cage Type - Currently Small Repti-Breeze screen cage
• Lighting - Dual Lamp with ZooMed 40w Heat bulb and ZooMed Reptisun 5.0 UVB. Both lights are turned on by 8am and turned off at 9pm.
• Temperature - Basking spot 75-80; Ambient 73
• Humidity - 60-70%, Zilla Hygrometer Thermometer
• Plants - (1) Pothos
• Placement - Cage located in my bedroom; Low traffic and away from air vents. Cage sits on a dresser, sits about 5ft - 6ft from the ground.
• Location - Florida

Current Problem - Hello Chameleon Forums. I have just recently bought a female panther chameleon from the reptile show that was here in Florida. The breeder I bought my first chameleon happen to be at the show, so I then purchased this new little girl.

So far she has been exceptional and a very health eater. I went to a new local reptile store this last weekend and bought some new feeders for her to try. I gave her a small discoid roach for the first time. She did eat it, though I don't think she enjoyed it because she hasent eaten another one since (but has been eating crickets, hornworms, ect.)

Today (this evening to be exact), my husband noticed her lip poking out on one side. I didn't notice it this morning when I was feeding her, so I'm not sure as to when this started. I'm hoping its not any sign on mouth rot.. I tried to research but only found one some-what related topic recommending more supplements to fix the problem..

Has anyone experience this with their chameleon, and should I be worried?

First pic is the lip poking out
Second Pic is the other side of her face which looks normal

 

[Mom]

Not sure how to edit, but I forgot to mention that I gutload my feeders with my own blended fruits and veggies.

 

[camillethecham]

I'd take her to the vet to be safe. If it is anything or can develop into anything it'd be better to catch it early.

 

[bobcochran]

First of all get rid of the Repcal phosphorous with d3. Don' t use anything with phosphorous as most staple feeders have more than enough phosphorous. Get calcium with d3 without phosphorous. Your supplement
Schedule sounds good otherwise. I would keep an eye on her lip for a few days before going to the vet, sometimes a cricket leg or something gets lodged in there and distends the lip, it might take her some time to
Clear it out. From the picture it doesn't look like a case of classic mouth rot, imo.

 

[Mom]

Thank you, Bob Cochran, for you advice. I will definitely keep an eye on her. Also, my supplements are phosphorus-free, that was a mistake in my message. But here's what I'm using, it is still the Rep-Cal brand.

 

[bobcochran]

RepCal phosphorous free works just fine.

 

[Mom]

Just wanted to update that my chameleon's lip looks much better. It no longer pokes out and looks flush with her top lip, however there is small black coloring on her lip. Other than that she is doing well.

 

[camillethecham]

Just wanted to update that my chameleon's lip looks much better. It no longer pokes out and looks flush with her top lip, however there is small black coloring on her lip. Other than that she is doing well.

How cute

 

[bobcochran]

This is good news!! Black areas usually indicate some bruising or trauma that will heal with some time.

 

[Moxie]

What a cutie! Nice pics. Glad it seems to be improving.