ciafardo 4
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I was thinking that too not that that's a bad thing.
Pink mass hatch
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I was thinking that too not that that's a bad thing.
There was a comment once about hatch success related to placement. I can't look for it right now...but I think it said that there was a better rate of survival when incubated further apart. I have always placed them about 1" apart in all directions because they do hatch more separately this way. I have always felt that it let each one hatch as though it was the first and thus be the "best" it could be.
GooglezNvincent
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Wow that freakin cool.
reyesjoshuacruz
Established Member
Now, if you only could find a decent gutload for your crickets...wait, there's a guy in the forum from Switzerland I think...I'll look up some old posts, I think his gutload is called "Cricket Weed" or something like that...
Nick
yeah i saw that, but i think its called " cricket cat nip "
steve as if everything in this process was not amazing enough, you got to witness all in one
very very cool
ciafardo 4
New Member
I don't disagree with what you are saying but in the wild they are all piled on top of each other.Probably helps if they hatch all at the same time in the wild so there more little claws digging out of the ground.
SSimsswiSS
Avid Member
Very good point. I'm keeping my Parsonii eggs spaced apart like this.
I think it's good to experiment with different methods. We can take a que from nature, but there's nothing natural about captive care. The learning part, and new discoveries, is what keeps my interest in keeping chameleons. It's experience gained a year at a time.
I'm still waiting for that elusive albino baby to hatch out.
laurie
Retired Moderator
Now, if you only could find a decent gutload for your crickets...wait, there's a guy in the forum from Switzerland I think...I'll look up some old posts, I think his gutload is called "Cricket Weed" or something like that...
Nick
Wow weird you say that, I heard about a guy in England also, I have been trying to get some good gutload. Wait I may have some in the mail.
SSimsswiSS
Avid Member
You do!Wow weird you say that, I heard about a guy in England also, I have been trying to get some good gutload. Wait I may have some in the mail.
mailed out Friday. How did you space your veil eggs that just hatched, Laurie?My reasoning with spacing them further apart so they would hatch more individually was...they are formed in a row in the chameleon, so each one might be a little "older" than the one behind it...so by allowing them to hatch individually rather than placing them all in a pile each one could be at its most mature when it hatched.
"Research results indicate that when closer together there is only a 79% hatch rate, where as those incubated a bit more separate hatched over a 27-day period with a 95% hatch rate. The hatchlings from the more separated clutch were also larger and stronger. Two were lost from the first clutch, those closer together; and none from the second (Research performed by Petr Necas)."
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/reptiles/lizards_chameleons/VeiledChameleon.php
Any comments Petr?
"Research results indicate that when closer together there is only a 79% hatch rate, where as those incubated a bit more separate hatched over a 27-day period with a 95% hatch rate. The hatchlings from the more separated clutch were also larger and stronger. Two were lost from the first clutch, those closer together; and none from the second (Research performed by Petr Necas)."
http://animal-world.com/encyclo/reptiles/lizards_chameleons/VeiledChameleon.php
Any comments Petr?
laurie
Retired Moderator
You do!
Thanks Steve, crack is always good. I always put mine so they are close by the time they hatch but not so they touch. I also leave the empty eggs shells as I have been told the sitmulate the others to hatch.
xanthoman
Avid Member
there was a famous gut load floating around the internet , designed by a renown group of individuals including a renowned herp vet , this recipe has since been removed from the internet for copyrite/ intellectual property infringements, i will share it with those who pm me but certain restrictions apply (no copying posting or reproductions , dont ask where it came from, and of course , it didnt come from me) if i can still find an active link for it i would prefer to send that instead.Now, if you only could find a decent gutload for your crickets...wait, there's a guy in the forum from Switzerland I think...I'll look up some old posts, I think his gutload is called "Cricket Weed" or something like that...
Nick
laurie
Retired Moderator
You do understand that we are all kidding about the cricket crack don't you?? The guy who started this thread makes and sells on THIS FORUM the best cricket crack to be had. None of us want ot need a recipe to make the stuff. Making what Steve does takes so many items you would not believe it!! It is also the most healthy one I have ever know of. Thanks for the thought.
Chameleons Canada
Avid Member
Well, I think people outside the US who doesn't have access to the Cricket Crack might be interested on this recipe. Even people in the US might want to try something different on their own, so saying no one "needs or wants" sounds a bit drastic. Thank you though for your intentions Xanthoman, I think it might be a good idea to open a new thread with the recipe or the way to find it in case someone needs it.
Back to the original topic, I recently hatched a clutch of 23 nosy bes, separated in rows as Steve did, the difference between the first baby and the last was 15 days, incubation time 8 months. One month after I hatched another clutch, exactly the same number, 23 from a female sister, incubation time 8 months too, the funny thing was, when I was trying to put out of the container the first one, the rest started hatching, one after the other, it was amazing, in a lapse of 20 minutes all of them, except one hatched right before my eyes. (I have a video, I'll see if I can uploaded in case you guys are interested). The one that didn't hatched took another 2 days to do so.
SSimsswiSS
Avid Member
Veil mass hatch
Here's my second to last hatch from Sunday (veils). I would of had Nosy Be pictures today, that just started hatching, but left my camera at home today.
pic #1 morning before work
pic #2 after work
pic #3 24 hours later, next morning
pic #4 crack baby.
Here's my second to last hatch from Sunday (veils). I would of had Nosy Be pictures today, that just started hatching, but left my camera at home today.
pic #1 morning before work
pic #2 after work
pic #3 24 hours later, next morning
pic #4 crack baby.
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sandrachameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
I'd read to space the eggs about an inch apart, so that's what I had done will all previous clutches, with near 100% success. Out of curiosity, with a clutch of eggs I've got right now I split them into to containers - one where they are spaced widely and one where they are all very close. It will be interesting to see if this clutch hatches differently in the two containers.
Congrats on all those babies!
